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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8484727" data-attributes="member: 6701124">It feels like Character Creation (Part I of the PhB) is something players are certainly involved in in the game beyond &quot;roleplaying&quot;.&nbsp; Is that just &quot;set up&quot; and not &quot;playing&quot;?Whether the rest of the actions of the players is limited to roleplaying as described by OP seems to be up to the DM by RAW, but RAW explicitly allows it to be expanded. The DMG notes that &quot;You can also lean on the other players to help you with [...] world-building.&quot; pg. 4Page 26 of the DMG talks about &quot;Involving the Characters&quot; and coming up with npcs and other things in the characters background.This has a very long tradition in D&amp;D.&nbsp; &quot;As part of setting up Hommlet, Gygax assigned players responsibility for some of the town residents and establishments: Dave Arneson, for example, specified the trader who lived in the far northwest of the town, the first house on the road when traveling from nearby Verbonbonc.&quot;&nbsp; - Game Wizards, page 86, describing a game run by Gygax in 1976.Presumably players who want that extra player involvement will pick a DM that wants it too if they have potential DMs to choose among.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8484727, member: 6701124"] It feels like Character Creation (Part I of the PhB) is something players are certainly involved in in the game beyond "roleplaying". Is that just "set up" and not "playing"? Whether the rest of the actions of the players is limited to roleplaying as described by OP seems to be up to the DM by RAW, but RAW explicitly allows it to be expanded. The DMG notes that "You can also lean on the other players to help you with [...] world-building." pg. 4 Page 26 of the DMG talks about "Involving the Characters" and coming up with npcs and other things in the characters background. This has a very long tradition in D&D. "As part of setting up Hommlet, Gygax assigned players responsibility for some of the town residents and establishments: Dave Arneson, for example, specified the trader who lived in the far northwest of the town, the first house on the road when traveling from nearby Verbonbonc." - Game Wizards, page 86, describing a game run by Gygax in 1976. Presumably players who want that extra player involvement will pick a DM that wants it too if they have potential DMs to choose among. [/QUOTE]

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