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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8485148" data-attributes="member: 23751">Initiative is called for by the DM, not the player.&nbsp; The player waits for his turn and can then take an action.&nbsp; At no time is he ever invoking initiative.&nbsp; That is done once at the beginning of the fight by the DM.Choosing a target is just picking who you want to attack.&nbsp; It might or might not happen and is subject to action of &quot;I want to attack the ogre.&quot;&nbsp; Once the player states his action in response to the DM describing the environment, the mechanics flow from there.&nbsp; The player doesn't invoke the choose a target rule.&nbsp; He's forced to choose a target in order to complete his declared attack.They aren't invoking the rule.&nbsp; They are subject to the combat rules that were invoked when the DM called for initiative.&nbsp; They have to declare an action, even if that action is sit there and do nothing.&nbsp; Those actions are rules that the player are subject to, not rules that the player is invoking.They players get choices of mechanics, yes, but they do not invoke any of them.&nbsp; The rules make them choose those mechanics due to the combat invoked by the DM when he invoked the combat rules by instructing the players to roll for initative.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8485148, member: 23751"] Initiative is called for by the DM, not the player. The player waits for his turn and can then take an action. At no time is he ever invoking initiative. That is done once at the beginning of the fight by the DM. Choosing a target is just picking who you want to attack. It might or might not happen and is subject to action of "I want to attack the ogre." Once the player states his action in response to the DM describing the environment, the mechanics flow from there. The player doesn't invoke the choose a target rule. He's forced to choose a target in order to complete his declared attack. They aren't invoking the rule. They are subject to the combat rules that were invoked when the DM called for initiative. They have to declare an action, even if that action is sit there and do nothing. Those actions are rules that the player are subject to, not rules that the player is invoking. They players get choices of mechanics, yes, but they do not invoke any of them. The rules make them choose those mechanics due to the combat invoked by the DM when he invoked the combat rules by instructing the players to roll for initative. [/QUOTE]

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