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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8495105" data-attributes="member: 6801845">The other problem I had with 3e was that the choices were often artificially defining in at least some cases.&nbsp; It seemed like it gave you hard guidelines on how difficult it was to climb something for example, but all it really did was push the decision back to a lookup table based on the type of wall.&nbsp; Want a wall that's easy to climb?&nbsp; Pick this one. One that's nearly impossible? Pick this other one and add some modifiers.&nbsp; Breaking down a door? Well, what kind of door is it?That, and don't forget to describe the wall or door correctly because if you do it wrong someone at that table (usually Bob) would point out that the DC should be 5 higher or lower for that specific type of door.So it seemed like you were making a choice, but really you were flipping through books because you had an idea of how difficult you wanted something to be but had to describe it correctly.&nbsp; I prefer not having to cross reference everything and simply be able to say it looks like a standard cheap door or a well reinforced solid door.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8495105, member: 6801845"] The other problem I had with 3e was that the choices were often artificially defining in at least some cases. It seemed like it gave you hard guidelines on how difficult it was to climb something for example, but all it really did was push the decision back to a lookup table based on the type of wall. Want a wall that's easy to climb? Pick this one. One that's nearly impossible? Pick this other one and add some modifiers. Breaking down a door? Well, what kind of door is it? That, and don't forget to describe the wall or door correctly because if you do it wrong someone at that table (usually Bob) would point out that the DC should be 5 higher or lower for that specific type of door. So it seemed like you were making a choice, but really you were flipping through books because you had an idea of how difficult you wanted something to be but had to describe it correctly. I prefer not having to cross reference everything and simply be able to say it looks like a standard cheap door or a well reinforced solid door. [/QUOTE]

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