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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 8499115" data-attributes="member: 6787503">I think we might see them differently, yes. For me, the distinction is between voluntary versus involuntary thoughts, actions, etc. The effects of charm person, dominate person, and fear are almost entirely of two sorts: either they are purely mechanical, imposing advantage or disadvantage on some roll or other, or they dictate or prevent certain actions by the target. So, for example, the target of charmed person might want to attack the caster but is unable to do so, or the target of fear might not want to drop what it's holding but is forced to do so by the spell.The possible exception to this is the effect of charmed person that causes the target to regard the caster as a friendly acquaintance. While I view this effect as a cognition that is non-consensually placed into the mind of the target, it could conceivably result in the target taking some voluntary actions that it might otherwise not have taken. Mostly, I think it applies to NPC targets of the spell, setting their attitude to "friendly" for the purposes of social interaction, but I could see an interesting case to be made for applying the "friendly" tag to a PC target, essentially turning the PC into an NPC, subject to being influenced socially by the caster for the duration.</blockquote>