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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8501577" data-attributes="member: 42582">Well, my views are meant to be self-consistent and consistent with Vincent Baker.Maybe, in both cases. It depends on whether the declaration is taken to refer to events in the fiction - which is clearly how Baker intends it, and was what I intended by my example of I grab the Orc - or is taken to be purely a move involving cues and game rules, analogously to I use Menacing Strike.  This goes right back to the discussion, upthread, about the interplay between fiction and mechanical terminology in action declarations. It's an especially distinctive element of D&D, I think, which perhaps more than any other RPG has so many player moves and player resources bundled up into potential box-to-box processes (spells; class and racial abilities; tightly defined attack types; etc).Sure.Here's an example of a rightward arrow from the 4e Rules Compendium (p 231, definition of the "Helpless" condition):This condition is a precondition for certain things such as the coup de grace action. Normally, a creature is affected by this condition because it is unconscious, but the DM might rule that a creature is so firmly bound that itis effectively helpless.The posited DM's reasoning, there, is from the fiction - The creature is firmly bound - to the cue this creature is subject to the helpelss condition. A GM who reasoned from the same bit of fiction to the creature being subject to the restrained condition (which prevents all non-teleportation movement, penalises attacks and also grants combat advantage, and which is said (p 233) to "usually result[] from being held in place by something: vines, tentacles, manacles attached to a wall, strands of webbing" and the like).Moving at half speed sounds like an operation performed on the "cue"/boxes side of the ledger, given that it is manipulation (halving) of a number (speed). That the resolved action means that both grappler and victim are at this place rather than this other place sounds like a change in the fiction generated by a leftward arrow, similar to <a href="http://lumpley.com/index.php/anyway/thread/427" target="_blank">step 6 of resolution process #1</a> ("if it's 8 or more hit points, your character knocks my character down").</blockquote>

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