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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8505385" data-attributes="member: 82106">I would respond that in fact I think the first process is more in line with the Czege Principle, though neither of them is exactly violating it. Still, there's a sense in which, if the person who is taking the risk is also setting the parameters for how it will be adjudicated, that might not be cool (your comment about 'trusting the player' IMHO is rooted in exactly this). I'm not categorically opposed to any possible system where the player picks the mechanics to use. I have, however, found that the GM might be in a stronger position to do so in many cases. Anyway, HoML at least has way for the player to effectively say "no no, I think I'd prefer things like THIS!" which is to invoke the use of a practice. Also you can invoke Fate. Neither of these is guaranteed to be appropriate to every possible situation though. You might not have available positive fate, or you might not be able to come up with a character attribute to invoke it on. You may well not have a practice that you can fictionally justify using in the situation, etc. Barring those possibilities, the character must go with his original approach.Right, that was my other concern, its only a tiny step to eliding the fiction entirely when stating it and linking it to mechanics are effectively all one thing. Handing the mapping off to the GM is mainly meant to make it harder for this to happen (though it isn't by itself a very strong guarantee as we've seen).Well, I guess you could look at it like player empowerment, but I think it is a weak sort compared with things like having the players decide many of the key points about how the fiction is set up to start with. I mean, if the player wanted zombies, and they got zombies, they probably don't need to also decide which knack was in the scope of the "burn zombies with fire" fictional move. I mean, its probably already pretty obvious. If not I think maybe someone dropped the ball on developing this story! (it happens).</blockquote>

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