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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8507856" data-attributes="member: 84112">we the players didn't know there were not more orcs (TBH we really expected more and it weirded us out)and how they get through it is a change of the narrative... "Lock picks are't working lets see if we can go around"I have almost never in my 30ish years playing seen players bring that type of force against a door though.or give up and move to a different oneshould you be trying even 10's of times really? at what point do you give up in real life? if you can't pick a lock on your 3rd or 4th attempt do you really keep bashing into it in hopes or do you try something else, or maybe just go do something else?seems a weird way to play in enemy territory where your character thinks there are more enemies (even if there are not)neither am I... but I would move on LONG before youwhy would ANYONE be for 100 die rolls? how often is it more then 2? In fact I would argue that if you REALLY think it will take 100 attempts you would be MORE likely to just declaim an auto fail (sorry it is out of reach)... because if not you may not be jumping to the moon but you are getting close.</blockquote>