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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PHBWil" data-source="post: 4670867" data-attributes="member: 82532">By significant, I guessing that you prefer combat as a major plot device?  For example, when you cornered a murderous villain your PC has been tracking and the villain doesn't want to go easily.  Combat in this case would be a suitable action?This is true combat doesn't always add to the characters worth in the game.  A character that is totally inept when it comes to armed combat could potentially be a life saver when combat is the worst possible things.  So then what would you say combat can add?I agree, a GM going into metagame mode is not only distracting but at times can be annoying.  What do you do, how do you feel in situations where it seems as if the GM has forced you one way or the other?I'm going to just let you all know that my RPing experience comes from the old FASA games, D&D3.5 and 4e, Star Wars (whatever it was before the Saga Edition), StarCraft, and a little bit of Warhmmer Fantasy Roleplay.  I know I may not be as experienced with different systems as many others on this board and I thank you all for the answers I'm getting, and hope they keep coming.My last little question for this post focuses on D&D4e. In my readings (okay so I lurk there a lot) on the Gleemax forums, there seems to be at times a very vocal set that says you can't roleplay in 4th edition.  The argument seems to be focused around the shear amount of combat powers and feats, and that their are no "rules" for RPing in the Player's Handbook but that combat is well defined within this core book.  And while this is true about the core book you look at some of the adventures for the system, let's think of Keep on the Shadowfell for this question, and there are reasons/motivations for combat given in the adventures.  Even the beginning scene in KotS, where you fight Kobolds on the road to a town you've never been to, has an underlying hidden agenda they may not be defined but as time goes on we know why these creatures are trying to stop our PCs.  Does this combat have merit given that there is an underlying drive in stopping the PCs?  Or is this combat for the sake of combat  because this is a dungeon crawl and there should be something to fight in every room?  Would KotS have the same feeling if there was less combat but it was more significant to the plot?</blockquote>

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