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<blockquote data-quote="Scars Unseen" data-source="post: 4655198" data-attributes="member: 10196">Judging from the arguments I've had with people on the WotC boards, I think I view the 4E class structure differently from most people.&nbsp; I don't see 4E classes as classes in the same sense that 3E classes are classes.&nbsp; I view 4E classes the way that the 2E class categories were(Warrior, Priest, etc).&nbsp; I then view the individual paths as the true classes.&nbsp; I'm not playing a fighter, I'm playing a tempest.&nbsp; And this view colors the way that I think that classes and roles should be treated.I believe that instead of creating new classes based upon roles and power sources, we should create classes based on broad concepts.&nbsp; For instance, a wizard casts arcane spells as a result of intense study and practice.&nbsp; There.&nbsp; That's your broad concept, and any specific character concept that can be described as such should be a wizard, no new class required.&nbsp; There doesn't need to be another arcane class created so that you can play an arcane striker that casts spells from a book, rather than from pacts.In short, I think that associating a class with one specific role is a mistake.I believe that anytime that someone has a specific character concept , there should be a short process that he puts the idea through:1)&nbsp; Is there a path, or multiclass of paths, that can cover the concept as you envision it?&nbsp; If yes, try to build your character that way before continuing.2)&nbsp; When reduced to the simplest description, would your concept fit into the description of an existing class(e.g. an unarmed duelist is, at his core, someone who fights, and could therefore be called a fighter)?&nbsp; If yes,&nbsp; your concept would best be created as a path in an existing class.&nbsp; Determine the role that you want your concept to fulfill(controller, defender, leader or striker) and have fun.&nbsp; If not, continue to step 3.3)&nbsp; Your concept would best be created as an entirely new class.&nbsp; Try to broaden you concept.&nbsp; Look to existing classes as examples.&nbsp; This will give your class more room to grow into any closely related concepts.&nbsp; Your specific concept can then be created as a specific path within that class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scars Unseen, post: 4655198, member: 10196"] Judging from the arguments I've had with people on the WotC boards, I think I view the 4E class structure differently from most people. I don't see 4E classes as classes in the same sense that 3E classes are classes. I view 4E classes the way that the 2E class categories were(Warrior, Priest, etc). I then view the individual [i]paths[/i] as the true classes. I'm not playing a fighter, I'm playing a tempest. And this view colors the way that I think that classes and roles should be treated. I believe that instead of creating new classes based upon roles and power sources, we should create classes based on broad concepts. For instance, a wizard casts arcane spells as a result of intense study and practice. There. That's your broad concept, and any specific character concept that can be described as such should be a wizard, no new class required. There doesn't need to be another arcane class created so that you can play an arcane striker that casts spells from a book, rather than from pacts. In short, I think that associating a class with one specific role is a mistake. I believe that anytime that someone has a specific character concept , there should be a short process that he puts the idea through: [b]1) Is there a path, or multiclass of paths, that can cover the concept as you envision it? If yes, try to build your character that way before continuing. 2) When reduced to the simplest description, would your concept fit into the description of an existing class(e.g. an unarmed duelist is, at his core, someone who fights, and could therefore be called a fighter)? If yes, your concept would best be created as a path in an existing class. Determine the role that you want your concept to fulfill(controller, defender, leader or striker) and have fun. If not, continue to step 3. 3) Your concept would best be created as an entirely new class. Try to broaden you concept. Look to existing classes as examples. This will give your class more room to grow into any closely related concepts. Your specific concept can then be created as a specific path within that class.[/b] [/QUOTE]

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