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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 4657994" data-attributes="member: 40177">I should have mentioned - that's everyone in the party.&nbsp; The first time he used it, everyone went from Bloodied to about three quarters HP - or more.&nbsp; And it cost no one a healing surge.&nbsp; And, when he does use powers that let you activate a healing surge, he's often healing you 10+ hit points.&nbsp; He's definitely useful to have around.&nbsp; &nbsp;How is that explained?&nbsp; I'm saying that roles help keep combat and non-combat differentiated, so that PCs can contribute equally in both play situations.&nbsp; In my experience, this has not always been the case in earlier editions.&nbsp; Sure, even if you were just a lowly fighter with no useful non-combat skills, clever play could get you somewhere... but you were at a significant disadvantage over the bard (Who, likewise, would suck in a fight standing next to you).&nbsp; Roles let us say &quot;this is more or less what you do in a fight;&nbsp; what you excel at outside of a fight is up to you&quot;.&nbsp; While I'm not 100% sold on 4e, this innovation is something I *love* and want to see more of.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wik, post: 4657994, member: 40177"] I should have mentioned - that's everyone in the party. The first time he used it, everyone went from Bloodied to about three quarters HP - or more. And it cost no one a healing surge. And, when he does use powers that let you activate a healing surge, he's often healing you 10+ hit points. He's definitely useful to have around. How is that explained? I'm saying that roles help keep combat and non-combat differentiated, so that PCs can contribute equally in both play situations. In my experience, this has not always been the case in earlier editions. Sure, even if you were just a lowly fighter with no useful non-combat skills, clever play could get you somewhere... but you were at a significant disadvantage over the bard (Who, likewise, would suck in a fight standing next to you). Roles let us say "this is more or less what you do in a fight; what you excel at outside of a fight is up to you". While I'm not 100% sold on 4e, this innovation is something I *love* and want to see more of. [/QUOTE]

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