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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 4706977" data-attributes="member: 3192"><p>I agree that the defining of hard and fast combat roles by class role is unnatural and should be dropped. But as one of the class roles is Fighter, essentially all about being a combatant, then combat ability will need to be defined in any other classes that may assist in a combat endeavor. They aren't combat classes, but they can lend their class abilities to combat. And since each non-Fighter class is defined by a role exterior to combat, then it is natural to find some classes simply support the effort better by filling certain combat roles rather than others. </p><p></p><p>For example, think if one of the classes was "Chef". I think a Chef in combat works best behind the lines on KP duty. One might say they were "born" for this combat role. When it comes to preparing and serving food, a Fighter probably works best as security. It is not that each Class has a predefined role for any endeavor. It is that any Class is going to more or less fill some roles better than others depending upon how the endeavor corresponds to their class. And, of course, each class is going to excel better than any other class in its' defining role, the class role.</p><p></p><p>I'm not against roles either, playing a (class) role is the point of roleplaying after all. Defining the (class) role players will fill is necessary, if the game is to serve its' titular function. RPGs that do not define a class role fail in my opinion as they are not defining the expected behaviors of its' players.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 4706977, member: 3192"] I agree that the defining of hard and fast combat roles by class role is unnatural and should be dropped. But as one of the class roles is Fighter, essentially all about being a combatant, then combat ability will need to be defined in any other classes that may assist in a combat endeavor. They aren't combat classes, but they can lend their class abilities to combat. And since each non-Fighter class is defined by a role exterior to combat, then it is natural to find some classes simply support the effort better by filling certain combat roles rather than others. For example, think if one of the classes was "Chef". I think a Chef in combat works best behind the lines on KP duty. One might say they were "born" for this combat role. When it comes to preparing and serving food, a Fighter probably works best as security. It is not that each Class has a predefined role for any endeavor. It is that any Class is going to more or less fill some roles better than others depending upon how the endeavor corresponds to their class. And, of course, each class is going to excel better than any other class in its' defining role, the class role. I'm not against roles either, playing a (class) role is the point of roleplaying after all. Defining the (class) role players will fill is necessary, if the game is to serve its' titular function. RPGs that do not define a class role fail in my opinion as they are not defining the expected behaviors of its' players. [/QUOTE]
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