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<blockquote data-quote="Thunderfoot" data-source="post: 5733339" data-attributes="member: 34175"><p>That's my point, I don't WANT to be told what I should do. Regardless.</p><p></p><p>I respectfully disagree. There is nothing right and everything wrong in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>My point was, he didn't want his player to be the healer, he was a cleric, not a medic... And frankly, I thought it was great that he was doing something so far out of the norm. Just because someone expects you to play your character a certain way is their problem, not yours.</p><p></p><p> I said it was improbable not impossible - please don't put words in my mouth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow, you came up with that hogwash all on your own... I NEVER said suboptimal was better RP... EVER - I said I prefer people to think outside of the box....</p></blockquote><p></p><p> Again, I never said either was better, just what I preferred, please, don't transpose your gripes into my comments.</p><p>As far as stopping either character from being made, again, I said it was improbable, not impossible. The real question comes from expectation. The idea that a fighter is a tank made only to suck up damage or a ranger is a DPS (what ever the #*$8 that means in D&D since seconds aren't used as far as I know) is MUD/MMO thinking. It goes beyond what I believe an RPG is supposed to do and moved the RPG back into the realm of combat simulation. Combat is not a required element of play even though it is the one most often associated with D&D. If a player associated fighter with tank then the player is more apt to ignore the RP part and go just in for the combat (third wheel mentality). Again, this isn't a given, but is more likely to happen rather than not. Yes, I'm sure you don't do it and none of your friends or anyone else you know has, that's great, but it happens, I've seen it, I loathe it.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Thunderfoot, post: 5733339, member: 34175"] That's my point, I don't WANT to be told what I should do. Regardless. I respectfully disagree. There is nothing right and everything wrong in my opinion. My point was, he didn't want his player to be the healer, he was a cleric, not a medic... And frankly, I thought it was great that he was doing something so far out of the norm. Just because someone expects you to play your character a certain way is their problem, not yours. I said it was improbable not impossible - please don't put words in my mouth. Wow, you came up with that hogwash all on your own... I NEVER said suboptimal was better RP... EVER - I said I prefer people to think outside of the box.... [/QUOTE] Again, I never said either was better, just what I preferred, please, don't transpose your gripes into my comments. As far as stopping either character from being made, again, I said it was improbable, not impossible. The real question comes from expectation. The idea that a fighter is a tank made only to suck up damage or a ranger is a DPS (what ever the #*$8 that means in D&D since seconds aren't used as far as I know) is MUD/MMO thinking. It goes beyond what I believe an RPG is supposed to do and moved the RPG back into the realm of combat simulation. Combat is not a required element of play even though it is the one most often associated with D&D. If a player associated fighter with tank then the player is more apt to ignore the RP part and go just in for the combat (third wheel mentality). Again, this isn't a given, but is more likely to happen rather than not. Yes, I'm sure you don't do it and none of your friends or anyone else you know has, that's great, but it happens, I've seen it, I loathe it. [/QUOTE]
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