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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5737708" data-attributes="member: 48965">To further clarify what I mean...&nbsp;Description of Warlock...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Now the description of a Wizard...&nbsp;These appear, in my mind at least, to be totally different archetypes. Reading this a warlock doesn't seem like a &quot;striker wizard&quot;, it appears to be a totally different archetype. The question is... from the description of a warlock or wizard, why should one be confined to the striker role and the other be confined to the controller role? Nothing in these archetypes seems specifically geared towards combat role and in fact I could see arguments that these archetypes could encompass all of the combat roles. So why is it that because I want to play a pact-damned, magic wielding, repentant... I also have to be a striker?&nbsp; This is the fundamental argument being discussed here.&nbsp;Now again, I readily admit that 4e is finally moving away from this and I personally think it's...&nbsp;1. Something that should have never been hardcoded to class in the first place, and...&nbsp;2. A good thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 5737708, member: 48965"] To further clarify what I mean... Description of Warlock... Now the description of a Wizard... These appear, in my mind at least, to be totally different archetypes. Reading this a warlock doesn't seem like a "striker wizard", it appears to be a totally different archetype. The question is... from the description of a warlock or wizard, why should one be confined to the striker role and the other be confined to the controller role? Nothing in these archetypes seems specifically geared towards combat role and in fact I could see arguments that these archetypes could encompass all of the combat roles. So why is it that because I want to play a pact-damned, magic wielding, repentant... I also have to be a striker? This is the fundamental argument being discussed here. Now again, I readily admit that 4e is [B]finally[/B] moving away from this and I personally think it's... 1. Something that should have never been hardcoded to class in the first place, and... 2. A good thing. [/QUOTE]

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