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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 5740000" data-attributes="member: 4892">I didn't mention class, I was specifically talking about concept. I don't need a class called knight to play a knight. Never have, never will. So what if there wassn't? And there is in the form of Backgrounds and Themes.Like? Maybe if you named what you think mechanically represents a pact I'd buy your argument.It doesn't. Unless you are talking specific mechanics that one class gets over another. But there are mechanical choices for a wizard that support the concept, just not the specific ones from the warlock class. No one is dancing around the question. I am answering it honestly, you just don't like the answer. It's fine if you don't, but claiming that I'm not answering your question is disingenuous. I'm not ignoring it. I made choices with my character. But you seem determined to inextricably tie my class choice to your concept. Why should the designers of 4E not tie class to combat role if you are unwilling to untether class from stereotypical background concepts?</blockquote>