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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 5740313" data-attributes="member: 4892">It is a concept. The magic involved is conceptual. The mechanics of the class would not change in my example.That's what outside-the-box thinking is all about. It doesn't have to be like other spells. If that line of thought prevailed among designers we would never have seen the 3E Warlock or the Book of Nine Swords.Like I've said, I would never (or rarely) create something of the sort for NPCs. But PCs can be unique in my games. As long as a player isn't trying to change mechanics they can pass any concept by me and I'm willing to listen. "Martial Magic" can work exactly like the Fighter mechanics-wise. What it allows for is a wider range of options to envision your character. Internal consistency doesn't need to hold true, IMO, when we are talking about a character in the spotlight like the PCs. I'm not even saying I'd make a character like this, it was merely quick brainstorming of an idea that Imaro seemingly thought was ridiculous.I understand that individual DMs have different thresholds of concepts they'd like to allow. I have a line myself. My greater point is that people are claiming Roles limit their characters, but they are more than willing to limit player creativity based on class choice.</blockquote>