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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5750004" data-attributes="member: 48965">Yeah, though admittedly WotC could have been a little more precise in their usage of language... then they wonder why some poeople find the current set up confusing. EDIT: But I still believe this supports my position that classes aren't (at least by default and by the developers/designers of the game) considered generic packages of abilities and skills but instead specific archetypes (on the class level) and concepts (on the build level)... which is why I don't like combat role (a game element that has nothing to do with concept or archetype) being tied into them. it creates a choice that shouldn't be there. If I want to experience gameplay as a striker but like the fiction of the cavalier and not the blackguard... I'm stuck having to choose one over the other.</blockquote>