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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 3784142" data-attributes="member: 18">No. Artificial stupidity shiz would be the WORST idea for a martial controller, absolutely the worst. No absolute mind-control through non-magical threats, please.A martial controller could easily be someone who is capable of moving enemies and himself around, and using tricky, dirty fighting moves (he could be a martial artist, or just a dirty, tricky fighter).Examples:Stunning melee attacks (including shield bashes, head clonks etc.)Shield-rushes/Bull-rushes (better than the normal kind, i.e. more powerful/reliable.)Exceptional tripping ability, trapping people on the ground.Throwing rocks or weapons to interrupt spellcastingRanged AoOs due to exceptional combat awareness (even when not using a ranged weapon - again, throws rocks, daggers, etc.)Throws/flips/moves enemies.Chucks dirt/dust/powder in enemies eyes/faces.Tricks enemies into overreaching (in a non-mind-control way).Disarms, sunders, etc. better than normal melees.Basically, you could just focus on all the utility/movement-control options available to melees, and upgrade them. Call him the Thug, or Mercenary, or Veteran, or whatever, cooler name you can come up with.Just don't for god's bloody sake, give me a bloody freakin' MMORPG tank, with weak melee ability, and magickalelelelellee taunts that don't have a magical power source yet someone CONTROL MENS MINDS <makes hypnotoad noises>Mind-control should be the province of magic and psionics, not martial.</blockquote>

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