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<blockquote data-quote="Theo R Cwithin" data-source="post: 5526399" data-attributes="member: 75712">Fighter and NPC roll for initiative, modified for drunkenness or whatnot (fighter likely gets a little bonus for &quot;pre-emption&quot;), and the two get their swings in.&nbsp;&nbsp; Everyone else hops in next round.&nbsp; I'd even allow anyone in the pub paying attention to make an initiative roll if they wanted to (though I wouldn't explicitly ask for rolls).&nbsp; For example, the bartender could have a xbow under the counter, and might get a spot in the first round if that would be interesting to the situation.I figure the PCs have already cleared the floor for a fight, the two combatants are aware of each other, and everyone else is watching them.&nbsp; That just doesn't strike me as a &quot;surprise&quot; situation.&nbsp; The only reason I wouldn't call for everyone to roll initiative is just because that's how these things play out IRL (or at least in spaghetti westerns): everyone steps back, mumbles their bets, and watches the opening shots eagerly... before jumping in, diving for cover, stealing someone's drink, or whatnot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Theo R Cwithin, post: 5526399, member: 75712"] Fighter and NPC roll for initiative, modified for drunkenness or whatnot (fighter likely gets a little bonus for "pre-emption"), and the two get their swings in. Everyone else hops in next round. I'd even allow anyone in the pub paying attention to make an initiative roll if they wanted to (though I wouldn't explicitly ask for rolls). For example, the bartender could have a xbow under the counter, and might get a spot in the first round if that would be interesting to the situation. I figure the PCs have already cleared the floor for a fight, the two combatants are aware of each other, and everyone else is watching them. That just doesn't strike me as a "surprise" situation. The only reason I wouldn't call for [I]everyone[/I] to roll initiative is just because that's how these things play out IRL (or at least in spaghetti westerns): everyone steps back, mumbles their bets, and watches the opening shots eagerly... before jumping in, diving for cover, stealing someone's drink, or whatnot. [/QUOTE]

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