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<blockquote data-quote="Theo R Cwithin" data-source="post: 5529185" data-attributes="member: 75712">I don't see this as a problem, actually.&nbsp;&nbsp; Some people are simply more reactive than others.&nbsp; That's what initiative attempts to model, imho.The problem I have with this approach is that it completely bypasses the advantage of things like Improved Initiative, or even simply higher level.A scene that comes to mind is of a Master training his student.&nbsp; Master says &quot;Hit me&quot;, and the two face off.&nbsp; Player of student says to DM &quot;I attack!&quot;&nbsp; So should the student actually hit the Master, just because he decides first to attack?&nbsp; My thought is no.&nbsp; The way I'd expect this to play out is that student decides to attack, but both roll for initiative. Mr. Miyagi is so good (high initiative) that he likely &quot;reads&quot; the student's intention in his eyes before the attack even begins, and can land the Karate Kid flat on his tookus before young cricket knows what hit him.Or think about a western.&nbsp; At high noon, Sheriff Goode and Black Bart square off in the deserted street.&nbsp; Being the good guy, the sheriff refuses to draw first, relying instead on his quick wits (high intiative).&nbsp; He draws only when the bad guy's player says &quot;I attack!&quot; and Black Bart goes for his gun.&nbsp; At that point, roll intiative to see who actually gets their shot off first.&nbsp; The quicker man-- the one with higher initiative-- is likely to win, though not always.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Theo R Cwithin, post: 5529185, member: 75712"] I don't see this as a problem, actually. Some people are simply more reactive than others. That's what initiative attempts to model, imho. The problem I have with this approach is that it completely bypasses the advantage of things like Improved Initiative, or even simply higher level. A scene that comes to mind is of a Master training his student. Master says "Hit me", and the two face off. Player of student says to DM "I attack!" So should the student actually hit the Master, just because he decides first to attack? My thought is no. The way I'd expect this to play out is that student decides to attack, but both roll for initiative. Mr. Miyagi is [I]so good[/I] (high initiative) that he likely "reads" the student's intention in his eyes before the attack even begins, and can land the Karate Kid flat on his tookus before young cricket knows what hit him. Or think about a western. At high noon, Sheriff Goode and Black Bart square off in the deserted street. Being the good guy, the sheriff refuses to draw first, relying instead on his quick wits (high intiative). He draws only when the bad guy's player says "I attack!" and Black Bart goes for his gun. At that point, roll intiative to see who actually gets their shot off first. The quicker man-- the one with higher initiative-- is likely to win, though not always. [/QUOTE]

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