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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7357243" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>For sure, which is why I followed up with what I would do assuming that I had determined that the second player’s help would have been appropriate to give Advantage to the first player’s roll. Namely, I would allow the player to roll a second time and keep the higher roll, and verbally acknowledge that it was my mistake for not checking if anyone else had an action before resolving the first player’s action. Sorry for setting off that tangent with my initial answer:</p><p></p><p>To divorce my answer from the specific example scenario and talk a little mor in terms of my general philosophy on these “take-back” moments, I’m of the opinion that it is my responsibility as DM when an action is declared to check with the other players if they have anything to do before proceeding to resolution. When Bob says he wants to scout ahead, I believe it is my job to ask the rest of the table if they have anything they’d like to do before Bob heads off. If I forget to do that and simply ask for Bob’s role, that’s my mistake, and I’m not going to deprive the players of that Bless bonus because of something I did. So I would allow Bob to take that +1d4, or that Advantage, or whatever else, assuming I had forgotten to give the players the opportunity to announce that intention. On the other hand, if I offer them the chance to buff Bob’s character and no one takes me up on it, then no, he can’t benefit from that buff you suddenly remembered you could cast.</p><p></p><p>I think of it kind of like Priority in <em>Magic: the Gathering</em>. If I cast a spell that lets me draw two cards, I have to pass Priority to you, giving you the opportunity to respond with a Counterspell or whatever, and you have to pass Priority back to me, before my spell is allowed to resolve. If I just tap my Lands, plop the draw spell on the table, and start drawing cards before asking you if you have a response, I’m the one in the wrong. You can call a Judge on me, and depending on the rules enforcement level of the tournament, I can face various penalties. But, assuming this is just a friendly kitchen table game, we might just agree to rewind the game state. I’ll put the two cards back on top of my deck, shuffle my deck if you like, and you can cast your Counterspell. On the other hand, if I do present you the opportunity to respond, and you pass Priority without casting your Counterspell, you don’t get to change your mind after I’ve drawn my two cards.</p><p></p><p>So I treat actions in D&D similarly. If I ask Bob to make his check before giving the other players “Priority” to cast Bless, or offer aid in some way, you’re in the right to say “wait, I wanted to do X first,” and I’ll honor that. If I asked “does anyone want to do anything to help Bob?” and no one responds, then no, you can’t give him Advantage after seeing that he rolled poorly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7357243, member: 6779196"] For sure, which is why I followed up with what I would do assuming that I had determined that the second player’s help would have been appropriate to give Advantage to the first player’s roll. Namely, I would allow the player to roll a second time and keep the higher roll, and verbally acknowledge that it was my mistake for not checking if anyone else had an action before resolving the first player’s action. Sorry for setting off that tangent with my initial answer: To divorce my answer from the specific example scenario and talk a little mor in terms of my general philosophy on these “take-back” moments, I’m of the opinion that it is my responsibility as DM when an action is declared to check with the other players if they have anything to do before proceeding to resolution. When Bob says he wants to scout ahead, I believe it is my job to ask the rest of the table if they have anything they’d like to do before Bob heads off. If I forget to do that and simply ask for Bob’s role, that’s my mistake, and I’m not going to deprive the players of that Bless bonus because of something I did. So I would allow Bob to take that +1d4, or that Advantage, or whatever else, assuming I had forgotten to give the players the opportunity to announce that intention. On the other hand, if I offer them the chance to buff Bob’s character and no one takes me up on it, then no, he can’t benefit from that buff you suddenly remembered you could cast. I think of it kind of like Priority in [I]Magic: the Gathering[/I]. If I cast a spell that lets me draw two cards, I have to pass Priority to you, giving you the opportunity to respond with a Counterspell or whatever, and you have to pass Priority back to me, before my spell is allowed to resolve. If I just tap my Lands, plop the draw spell on the table, and start drawing cards before asking you if you have a response, I’m the one in the wrong. You can call a Judge on me, and depending on the rules enforcement level of the tournament, I can face various penalties. But, assuming this is just a friendly kitchen table game, we might just agree to rewind the game state. I’ll put the two cards back on top of my deck, shuffle my deck if you like, and you can cast your Counterspell. On the other hand, if I do present you the opportunity to respond, and you pass Priority without casting your Counterspell, you don’t get to change your mind after I’ve drawn my two cards. So I treat actions in D&D similarly. If I ask Bob to make his check before giving the other players “Priority” to cast Bless, or offer aid in some way, you’re in the right to say “wait, I wanted to do X first,” and I’ll honor that. If I asked “does anyone want to do anything to help Bob?” and no one responds, then no, you can’t give him Advantage after seeing that he rolled poorly. [/QUOTE]
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