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<blockquote data-quote="clark411" data-source="post: 833230" data-attributes="member: 4768">Please, please tell me the avatar of Kool Aid burst through the hull of the ship you were in for his entrance!I've never seen a powergamer turned into a roleplayer truly, only advance into at best a kind of hybrid power-roleplaying gamer... and I don't think that player would ever remove his min-maxing ways as it's what he considers fun.&nbsp; It's fun to be extremely powerful, and acting the part is what is roleplaying to him.. it'd be no fun at all to roleplay an ordinary person, or even an above ordinary one for him.. and I can't really justify a stance that role is better than roll.. both are pivotal to the game I suppose, and it's utterly subjective- so to each his or her own.Meh, back on track- what I have found is that powergamers will shamelessly abuse whatever edges they recieve (as it's a game and about winning) and use roleplay if necessary to get those benefits / maintain them.. the roleplay is either used in boasting of one's greatness, or to make sure the greatness is obvious to others around the table (like the level 4 guy saying: &quot;I swing my mighty magical axe as a chorus of awestruck astral devas sing above in the heavens!&nbsp; A hush comes as the blow lands- 52 damage GM sir.&nbsp; Make a Fort save for it&quot; or something), so upping bene's may not necessarily transform a player's motives, but instead encourage them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clark411, post: 833230, member: 4768"] Please, please tell me the avatar of Kool Aid burst through the hull of the ship you were in for his entrance! I've never seen a powergamer turned into a roleplayer truly, only advance into at best a kind of hybrid power-roleplaying gamer... and I don't think that player would ever remove his min-maxing ways as it's what he considers fun. It's fun to be extremely powerful, and acting the part is what is roleplaying to him.. it'd be no fun at all to roleplay an ordinary person, or even an above ordinary one for him.. and I can't really justify a stance that role is better than roll.. both are pivotal to the game I suppose, and it's utterly subjective- so to each his or her own. Meh, back on track- what I have found is that powergamers will shamelessly abuse whatever edges they recieve (as it's a game and about winning) and use roleplay if necessary to get those benefits / maintain them.. the roleplay is either used in boasting of one's greatness, or to make sure the greatness is obvious to others around the table (like the level 4 guy saying: "I swing my mighty magical axe as a chorus of awestruck astral devas sing above in the heavens! A hush comes as the blow lands- 52 damage GM sir. Make a Fort save for it" or something), so upping bene's may not necessarily transform a player's motives, but instead encourage them. [/QUOTE]

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