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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6861378" data-attributes="member: 4937">That is one solution to the problem that might work with some groups.&nbsp; It depends on how competitive the players are and what they'll compete on.&nbsp; If you have two people in the group that just have to have a better character than everyone else, the GM approved cheating method probably isn't going to work.&nbsp; If the players will conform to social pressure not to abuse their freedom, and even take pride in playing low stats, then letting them just go ahead and play what they want is probably better than making them go through the motions of rolling dice and cheating to get what they want.What has seemed to work for me is to just allow a fairly high point buy so that everyone's characters are a tad OP.&nbsp; Since I crack down on power levels elsewhere in my house rules, and since I run a fairly lethal game anyway, having PC's that are a bit on the OP side actually works better for me than not.&nbsp; It also ensures everyone is on a level playing field and so avoids table drama, and it means I don't have to watch everyone roll their character or listen to whines about rerolling.If you really must go with die-rolling, some of the methods in the 1e AD&amp;D DMG are far more functional for the goal of letting everyone play the super-powered character they really want than 4d6 drop one.&nbsp; In particular, groups that have to have super characters will get better results from the method where you roll 3d6 6 times for each ability, and take the highest result of the set of six.&nbsp; That method basically guarantees no one has a bad character, generates lots of 16's and higher, and still has the feel and thrill of die rolling.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6861378, member: 4937"] That is one solution to the problem that might work with some groups. It depends on how competitive the players are and what they'll compete on. If you have two people in the group that just have to have a better character than everyone else, the GM approved cheating method probably isn't going to work. If the players will conform to social pressure not to abuse their freedom, and even take pride in playing low stats, then letting them just go ahead and play what they want is probably better than making them go through the motions of rolling dice and cheating to get what they want. What has seemed to work for me is to just allow a fairly high point buy so that everyone's characters are a tad OP. Since I crack down on power levels elsewhere in my house rules, and since I run a fairly lethal game anyway, having PC's that are a bit on the OP side actually works better for me than not. It also ensures everyone is on a level playing field and so avoids table drama, and it means I don't have to watch everyone roll their character or listen to whines about rerolling. If you really must go with die-rolling, some of the methods in the 1e AD&D DMG are far more functional for the goal of letting everyone play the super-powered character they really want than 4d6 drop one. In particular, groups that have to have super characters will get better results from the method where you roll 3d6 6 times for each ability, and take the highest result of the set of six. That method basically guarantees no one has a bad character, generates lots of 16's and higher, and still has the feel and thrill of die rolling. [/QUOTE]

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