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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6867247" data-attributes="member: 23751">The only shift happened in your own mind.Correct.&nbsp; There is absolutely nothing inherently exploitative about changing the rolling rules.&nbsp; Some outside exploitation such as a girlfriend has to happen.&nbsp; That girlfriend happening doesn't make the rules change exploitative, it makes the girlfriend exploitative.No goalposts were moved.&nbsp; You and I gave examples of outside exploitative things using a rules change as a tool.&nbsp; That can't make the rules change itself exploitative.&nbsp; Of course, by your logic rolling 4d6 straight down with no re-rolls is exploitative, because the girlfriend could persuade her boyfriend to allow it and roll better stats than a point buy or array.&nbsp; No, wait!&nbsp; Point buys and arrays are exploitative because the girlfriend convinced her boyfriend to allow it instead of using rolls and now she can design the exact character she wants.Every type of stat generation is exploitative!!!!Only not.&nbsp; None of them are because there is nothing inherently exploitative in any of them.&nbsp; Again, it's all the girlfriend or other outside influence that is doing the exploiting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6867247, member: 23751"] The only shift happened in your own mind. Correct. There is absolutely nothing inherently exploitative about changing the rolling rules. Some outside exploitation such as a girlfriend has to happen. That girlfriend happening doesn't make the rules change exploitative, it makes the girlfriend exploitative. No goalposts were moved. You and I gave examples of outside exploitative things using a rules change as a tool. That can't make the rules change itself exploitative. Of course, by your logic rolling 4d6 straight down with no re-rolls is exploitative, because the girlfriend could persuade her boyfriend to allow it and roll better stats than a point buy or array. No, wait! Point buys and arrays are exploitative because the girlfriend convinced her boyfriend to allow it instead of using rolls and now she can design the exact character she wants. Every type of stat generation is exploitative!!!! Only not. None of them are because there is nothing inherently exploitative in any of them. Again, it's all the girlfriend or other outside influence that is doing the exploiting. [/QUOTE]

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