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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 343767" data-attributes="member: 4937">I've used 4d6, take three, repeat 5 more times, and assign as you wish for a long time.For a while, back in 1st edition when at least one score had to be 16 to mean much of anything, I was letting one 5d6 take three in with the others (the 'prime requisite roll').  Now, I don't much see the point of that, so I've dropped it.One thing that I am considering going back to is letting them switch only two rolls.  One goal of attribute generation should be to avoid predictablity in stats - that is every fighter being low Chr, every mage being low Str, etc.   I am intrigued by a combination point buy and dice roll system, but I'm not entirely satisfied by the ones presented here.I watch players roll.  I can remember playing with a group that used the Unearthed Arcana method (intended primarily for high level NPC's) and they still cheated, so I always watch people like hawks.  I only let players reroll thier stats if they clearly have something unplayable, like a total bonus of 0 or less.  No point in playing a character that is just going to die anyway, or in making a player play a character he would rather see die.  If they choose to reroll, they lose everything.  No rerolling just the one offending low attribute.So far in 3rd. edition this hasn't created a problem.  Most characters turn out with reasonable stats.   I've got no serious problem with a 25 or 28 point buy if you'd rather have certainty though.  Certainly this dispenses with the cheating, but it also has the outcome of making vanilla min/maxed stats and can be abused by players taking negatives (especially in charisma, but sometimes in intelligence as well) to buy up the class critical scores.  So, I tend to stick with and encourage the old standbuy.</blockquote>

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