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<blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 5676780" data-attributes="member: 40109"><p>We're getting very far afield here, but let me make a few points.</p><p> </p><p>(1) I'm not saying that <em>any</em> EL 1 encounter should be a losing situation for a solo 2nd-level fighter. As most of us know quite well, the CR/EL system is...well, let's just say "flawed."</p><p> </p><p>(2) The riding dog actually is a pretty deadly (or more accurately, swingy) opponent, largely due to its ability to trip. It is absolutely capable of taking out an unlucky 2nd-level fighter. What's wrong here (IMO) is giving 1st-level druids access to CR 1 animal companions.</p><p> </p><p>(3) No, a 2nd-level fighter should not lose to his 1st-level self four-fifths of the time. As I hinted at earlier, there is a huge difference between facing a single opponent and multiple opponents. One of the reasons I expect a 2nd-level fighter to lose to two CR 1/2 orcs is that two opponents means two attack rolls against the fighter each round, while he can only target 50% of his enemies in return, as well as the possibilities for the orcs to synergize through flanking, grappling, etc. Another reason is that orcs are relatively hard hitters for their CR; one lucky hit may be all it takes to drop the fighter. This is not the case for all EL 1 encounters (which brings us back to point #1).</p><p> </p><p>(4) I <em>will</em> say, however, that a 2nd-level fighter can easily lose to a 1st-level fighter, for some of the same reasons that the orcs present a significant threat. The 1st-level fighter can be a "hard hitter," too, and because his attack bonus is likely only 1 worse than the 2nd-level fighter, his chance of hitting is almost the same -- which is essentially the same point I made about fighters with 14 Strength: they aren't <em>that</em> much worse than fighters with 16 or 18 Strength.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vegepygmy, post: 5676780, member: 40109"] We're getting very far afield here, but let me make a few points. (1) I'm not saying that [I]any[/I] EL 1 encounter should be a losing situation for a solo 2nd-level fighter. As most of us know quite well, the CR/EL system is...well, let's just say "flawed." (2) The riding dog actually is a pretty deadly (or more accurately, swingy) opponent, largely due to its ability to trip. It is absolutely capable of taking out an unlucky 2nd-level fighter. What's wrong here (IMO) is giving 1st-level druids access to CR 1 animal companions. (3) No, a 2nd-level fighter should not lose to his 1st-level self four-fifths of the time. As I hinted at earlier, there is a huge difference between facing a single opponent and multiple opponents. One of the reasons I expect a 2nd-level fighter to lose to two CR 1/2 orcs is that two opponents means two attack rolls against the fighter each round, while he can only target 50% of his enemies in return, as well as the possibilities for the orcs to synergize through flanking, grappling, etc. Another reason is that orcs are relatively hard hitters for their CR; one lucky hit may be all it takes to drop the fighter. This is not the case for all EL 1 encounters (which brings us back to point #1). (4) I [I]will[/I] say, however, that a 2nd-level fighter can easily lose to a 1st-level fighter, for some of the same reasons that the orcs present a significant threat. The 1st-level fighter can be a "hard hitter," too, and because his attack bonus is likely only 1 worse than the 2nd-level fighter, his chance of hitting is almost the same -- which is essentially the same point I made about fighters with 14 Strength: they aren't [I]that[/I] much worse than fighters with 16 or 18 Strength. [/QUOTE]
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