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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 2142429" data-attributes="member: 7240">That was essentially how I was phrasing my point initially. I was using the term "play acting" to indicate the absence of audience as a concern; "play pretend" is just as good. What I then went on to suggest was that while engaging in proxy violence might be viewed as a reasonable activity, most people view "play acting" or "playing pretend" flirtation/seduction as nigh pathological. I then went on to suggest that society might just be onto something there.It does. "Play acting" or "playing pretend" violence or political intrigue is viewed as essentially normal whereas treating romance in this way is viewed as pathological. I choose to see these differences in reaction on the part of mainstream society as indicative of something important. They're not the whole story but they are one of the signs that this activity is more problematic or at least more exceptional than many on this thread assert.Not really. Not including it is not the same as excluding it. All kinds of things happen to the characters when they are not "on screen" or whatever; nothing stops romance from being one of those things in the games I run.Don't care for it!? It sounds ghastly! I commend you on your tolerance.My problem here is that you are placing romance in the same category as a bunch of other normal things that nobody has any problem with anybody roleplaying.I'm not suggesting that people shouldn't do romance due to loss of face; after all, we're all willing to endure the loss of face associated with admitting we are D&D players. My only reason for invoking mainstream social standards is that mainstream society is, from time to time, on to something.</blockquote>

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