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<blockquote data-quote="PA" data-source="post: 550367" data-attributes="member: 282"><p>Not really. You can also make a name for yourself, like Guan Yu or Lü Bu, who both were offered high positions. And, though not a pauper proper, Cao Cao was the son of a man adopted by a eunuch: hardly the most likely candidate to the job of king, even less of emperor, which he became in every way but in name.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Er, what about Zhang Fei? Hardly faceless. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In a campaign, the Yellow Scarves could be the "good guys" (and then we could get something closer to Outlaws of the Marsh).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Zhuge Liang, also known under the honorific name of Kongming. My favorite character. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Liu Bei, also known under the honorific name of Xuande, seems to have been great only because he attracted greatness: Kongming as a councellor (and, in the novel if not historically, as a genius tactician and strategist), Guan Yu and Zhang Fei as warriors, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, historically, some of the exploits attributed to Guan Yu in the novel were Sun Jian's doings. He could have made it to the throne, having the imperial seal and all... Too bad his heirs were not quite of the same cloth.</p><p></p><p>Sima Yi was not quite as good as Zhuge Liang, but he's still one of the masterminds of the time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PA, post: 550367, member: 282"] Not really. You can also make a name for yourself, like Guan Yu or Lü Bu, who both were offered high positions. And, though not a pauper proper, Cao Cao was the son of a man adopted by a eunuch: hardly the most likely candidate to the job of king, even less of emperor, which he became in every way but in name. Er, what about Zhang Fei? Hardly faceless. :p In a campaign, the Yellow Scarves could be the "good guys" (and then we could get something closer to Outlaws of the Marsh). Zhuge Liang, also known under the honorific name of Kongming. My favorite character. :D Liu Bei, also known under the honorific name of Xuande, seems to have been great only because he attracted greatness: Kongming as a councellor (and, in the novel if not historically, as a genius tactician and strategist), Guan Yu and Zhang Fei as warriors, etc. Actually, historically, some of the exploits attributed to Guan Yu in the novel were Sun Jian's doings. He could have made it to the throne, having the imperial seal and all... Too bad his heirs were not quite of the same cloth. Sima Yi was not quite as good as Zhuge Liang, but he's still one of the masterminds of the time. [/QUOTE]
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