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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9827746" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Sometimes we might observe that sex takes place - eg <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/another-prince-valiant-session-report.667558/" target="_blank">when Sir Gerren was seduced by Lady Lorette during a hunt</a> - but we're not interested in describing any details. I think I would find that a bit weird, to be honest.</p><p></p><p>In Rolemaster and Burning Wheel, this is Seduction. (I think also in Pelgrane's Dying Earth.) In Prince Valiant this is Glamourie. In Torchbearer it's Manipulator. In Classic Traveller we've used Liaison, but in the right circumstances (eg at a party, rather than alone) it might be Carousing, or even Steward (to woo someone with wine and food).</p><p></p><p>I would say "establishing" rather than "building": <em>that X is attracted to Y</em> or <em>that X loves Y</em> is a "fact" about the fiction like any other, and can be established, and/or put to the test, like any other candidate "fact" about the fiction.</p><p></p><p>Whether it is built up through play - like in your example - or established by a single moment of narration, for me depends on context, details and systems the same as any other part of our shared fiction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9827746, member: 42582"] Sometimes we might observe that sex takes place - eg [url=https://www.enworld.org/threads/another-prince-valiant-session-report.667558/]when Sir Gerren was seduced by Lady Lorette during a hunt[/url] - but we're not interested in describing any details. I think I would find that a bit weird, to be honest. In Rolemaster and Burning Wheel, this is Seduction. (I think also in Pelgrane's Dying Earth.) In Prince Valiant this is Glamourie. In Torchbearer it's Manipulator. In Classic Traveller we've used Liaison, but in the right circumstances (eg at a party, rather than alone) it might be Carousing, or even Steward (to woo someone with wine and food). I would say "establishing" rather than "building": [I]that X is attracted to Y[/I] or [I]that X loves Y[/I] is a "fact" about the fiction like any other, and can be established, and/or put to the test, like any other candidate "fact" about the fiction. Whether it is built up through play - like in your example - or established by a single moment of narration, for me depends on context, details and systems the same as any other part of our shared fiction. [/QUOTE]
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