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Romans Puzzle! I have the solution! (The Puzzle that killed a campaign)
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<blockquote data-quote="Romnipotent" data-source="post: 2228689" data-attributes="member: 23770"><p>Just got an email from the DM, and he sounds like a great person. SO no more hating on the DM for making a difficult puzzle. Theres reasons for it existing, and also clues around the room they didn't pick up.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as I recall roman said the treasure was an illusion but that was it... Didn't look into the imaginary pile...</p><p></p><p>Below is the email I received, as the DM isn't a registered user my email address gave him something to use for contacting us.</p><p></p><p>[sblock]</p><p>Hey,</p><p></p><p>Sorry. I'm the bad DM. Don't have membership on the</p><p>forum and your email was handy when I scanned through</p><p>the forum.</p><p></p><p>I had no idea that I had so many people up in arms! I</p><p>though Roman was joking about the 10,000 posts. </p><p>Really who cares about my homebrew campaign with 7-10</p><p>players?</p><p></p><p>Anyways, I feel really bad about the whole thing. I</p><p>really thought that my players could solve it. They</p><p>have solved everything with ease before. I was really</p><p></p><p>disappointed because I felt they didn't really spend</p><p>any time on solving it or searching for clues. I</p><p>guess I just though they were tired of my campaign. </p><p>It had been a year after all and others wanted to run</p><p>stuff.</p><p></p><p>They first came upon the riddle at the end of a</p><p>session. Yeah they looked at it but it wasn't for</p><p>hours or 'a whole session'... maybe 15-20 minutes. </p><p>And they were tired at the end of the game because</p><p>there had been TONS of combat. </p><p></p><p>So I called it there and said we'd give it a shot next</p><p>week. I asked another player if he would be willing</p><p>to run something, just in case.</p><p></p><p>Next week rolled around and some (like Roman) looked</p><p>at the puzzle but most just rolled characters for the</p><p>next campaign. So I rolled too, 'cause it looked</p><p>like the majority were tired of my campaign.</p><p></p><p>We had a lot of fun over the year and I was</p><p>disappointed, especially since I had so much more</p><p>planned, but it seemed to be what people wanted.</p><p><shrug></p><p></p><p>As for the riddle, I made it myself. And, yeah, it</p><p>was too hard. My mistake. But there were other ways</p><p>around it in the pile of treasure if they had looked</p><p>in it. Both clues and magic to pass the door. I was</p><p>again disappointed when they didn't check. I guess I</p><p>warned them too much about how hard the temple was and</p><p>they had given up.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"><span style="color: DarkOrange">The answer:</span></span></p><p>How to explain... There are 3 'areas' of each shape. </p><p>If you count the number of shapes in the area you will</p><p>find that one is all even (10,20,30?), one all</p><p>odd(15,21,33?), and one all prime(17,29,?).</p><p></p><p>Ok, in hindsight it is almost impossible without the</p><p>clue, but I really do have multiple math geniuses in</p><p>my playing group and I thought they would get it. Or</p><p>at least search for more information! (As for the bad</p><p>grammar, it's my fault. I only have so much time to</p><p>plan each week and I was in a rush.)</p><p></p><p>For the blanks, there is a section of two which I</p><p>hoped would be prime (but would have accepted even in</p><p>a pinch) and then a section of eight for even and a</p><p>section of 25? for odd. Shrug, my bad.</p><p></p><p>Bad DM? Probably. But (i think) we had a ton of fun</p><p>over the year for the most part. And really I was</p><p>disappointed with their efforts at the end.</p><p></p><p>As for using the puzzle again... I was going to. Not</p><p>in this form but make it much smaller and try just</p><p>evens and odds.</p><p></p><p>In the end, I'm really sorry that I used this puzzle</p><p>at a time when they felt like there was no other</p><p>options. But that's what happened and then didn't</p><p>take any of the other options out. What am I suppose</p><p>to do? Keep the majority in a campaign they don't</p><p>want to be in?</p><p></p><p>Feel free to post the email or just the solution in</p><p>the forum.</p><p></p><p>Thanks to all those that tried not to leap to</p><p>conclusions.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for the bad grammar, but it's late and I don't</p><p>really care. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Best of luck in your games.</p><p></p><p>PS: If you have Roman's email can you give this to</p><p>him? Otherwise I'll give him the answer next time I</p><p>see him.</p><p>[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>Well... its over! I said I'd get the answer! now, what on earth does it mean <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Romnipotent, post: 2228689, member: 23770"] Just got an email from the DM, and he sounds like a great person. SO no more hating on the DM for making a difficult puzzle. Theres reasons for it existing, and also clues around the room they didn't pick up. As far as I recall roman said the treasure was an illusion but that was it... Didn't look into the imaginary pile... Below is the email I received, as the DM isn't a registered user my email address gave him something to use for contacting us. [sblock] Hey, Sorry. I'm the bad DM. Don't have membership on the forum and your email was handy when I scanned through the forum. I had no idea that I had so many people up in arms! I though Roman was joking about the 10,000 posts. Really who cares about my homebrew campaign with 7-10 players? Anyways, I feel really bad about the whole thing. I really thought that my players could solve it. They have solved everything with ease before. I was really disappointed because I felt they didn't really spend any time on solving it or searching for clues. I guess I just though they were tired of my campaign. It had been a year after all and others wanted to run stuff. They first came upon the riddle at the end of a session. Yeah they looked at it but it wasn't for hours or 'a whole session'... maybe 15-20 minutes. And they were tired at the end of the game because there had been TONS of combat. So I called it there and said we'd give it a shot next week. I asked another player if he would be willing to run something, just in case. Next week rolled around and some (like Roman) looked at the puzzle but most just rolled characters for the next campaign. So I rolled too, 'cause it looked like the majority were tired of my campaign. We had a lot of fun over the year and I was disappointed, especially since I had so much more planned, but it seemed to be what people wanted. <shrug> As for the riddle, I made it myself. And, yeah, it was too hard. My mistake. But there were other ways around it in the pile of treasure if they had looked in it. Both clues and magic to pass the door. I was again disappointed when they didn't check. I guess I warned them too much about how hard the temple was and they had given up. [SIZE=7][COLOR=DarkOrange]The answer:[/COLOR][/SIZE] How to explain... There are 3 'areas' of each shape. If you count the number of shapes in the area you will find that one is all even (10,20,30?), one all odd(15,21,33?), and one all prime(17,29,?). Ok, in hindsight it is almost impossible without the clue, but I really do have multiple math geniuses in my playing group and I thought they would get it. Or at least search for more information! (As for the bad grammar, it's my fault. I only have so much time to plan each week and I was in a rush.) For the blanks, there is a section of two which I hoped would be prime (but would have accepted even in a pinch) and then a section of eight for even and a section of 25? for odd. Shrug, my bad. Bad DM? Probably. But (i think) we had a ton of fun over the year for the most part. And really I was disappointed with their efforts at the end. As for using the puzzle again... I was going to. Not in this form but make it much smaller and try just evens and odds. In the end, I'm really sorry that I used this puzzle at a time when they felt like there was no other options. But that's what happened and then didn't take any of the other options out. What am I suppose to do? Keep the majority in a campaign they don't want to be in? Feel free to post the email or just the solution in the forum. Thanks to all those that tried not to leap to conclusions. Sorry for the bad grammar, but it's late and I don't really care. :) Best of luck in your games. PS: If you have Roman's email can you give this to him? Otherwise I'll give him the answer next time I see him. [/sblock] Well... its over! I said I'd get the answer! now, what on earth does it mean :confused: [/QUOTE]
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