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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Humanophile" data-source="post: 406718" data-attributes="member: 1049">I said romantic angst.  There's lots of angst in the fantasy market, and there's lots of romance in there, but the two only seem to overlap in certain ways.  There's more than enough pining over a lost/unattainable love, but there's little in the way of "can't live with them, can't live without them".  This is probably my minority preference here, but I don't find stories that end with True Lovers overcoming external adversity that...  well, I'm not going to say they can't be good, or that they can't be angsty, but I just prefer the types where the characters problems are all caused by one or both of them having internal issues that go at cross purposes to romance.Again, I beg to differ, even though more people will probably agree with your take.We've all seen our share of fantasy literature, we all know that True Love finds a way.  As such, I wouldn't find an elf and an orc whos respective races keep them apart to be that romantically angsty; we all know that in the end, they'll elope and live Happily Ever After.  Now an elf and an orc who were each properly indoctrinated, and who balance their "I'm wildly attracted to everything about this person" with deeply conditioned "I'm attracted to a filthy, disgusting orc/elf!  What's wrong with me?" have angst, since they can't as easily dump what's holding them back.And BTW, I find the "lovers who have to overcome outside adversity" far more cliche than people who want two mutually exclusive things, and/or want something impossible.  (Well, OK, there's enough "My True Love is dead" out there, but relatively little "My True Love decided that she doesn't feel the same way about me and wants to see other people".  Granted, a dead lover is a more significant plot-piece, but angst is a generally adolecent thing, and the latter is definately more angst producing, simply because you have more repeated reminders and fewer excuses.)jgbrowning-  Some people happen to like angst from a distance.  I guess for the same reason that people like movies or other things that make them squeamish or otherwise discomforted.  It can be quite interesting from an artistic point of view.  Besides, WWGS has become rather successful at putting out games with a heavy angst content, so at least in that we know there's a market.</blockquote>

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