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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 1816349" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>Me too. I've only read a wee bit of Mercedes Lackey, but I didn't see any of that there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So... Goodkind, then? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, it sounds like you're looking for a slightly different flavor. One which can actually be done with ordinary D&D, I would think. Although if you could stretch the political intrigue/romance definition to include Robin Hobb, you've got people using Wit to bond with all kinds of animals. Kristen Britain's more-intelligent-than-normal horse-companions that stay with her Green Riders might fit into this field as well, and they kick bad guys to death on a fairly regular basis. I don't know that I'd consider that "cuddly", per se.</p><p></p><p>And Pern would fit, possibly, with people bonding with dragons and whatever-the-little-mini-dragons-were-called. The women are by no means chaste and docile in that world, either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe that's the worst misspelling of "scarlet-tressed" I've seen all day.</p><p></p><p>Seriously, I don't believe that anyone said that it was going to be the way you're worried about it being. I mean, I hope that it ain't that way, too, but I've read enough of the authors they're describing that I don't see that as a real problem. I'm sure that anyone who wants to run a "chaste, pretty girl is called ugly and stupid by evil female peers until handsome male authority figure recognizes her secret magical gift for using crystals to create rainbows that make the unicorns sing"-style campaign will be able to do so, but I'm much more interested in the political intrigue and the possibility of having a book that addresses the game mechanics-versus-roleplaying question for social encounters.</p><p></p><p>I'm interested in something more complex than "Okay, Sense Motive... yeah, this guy is evil -- roll initiative" or "Diplomacy of 22 -- yeah, she's totally into you". I've been able to get that with D&D sometimes (and I'm obviously exaggerating the degree of simplicity, just as you've slightly exaggerated the possible simplicity of Blue Rose), but it hasn't always been easy or supported happily by the rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Those both sound good to me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'd happily play in both of those.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 1816349, member: 5171"] Me too. I've only read a wee bit of Mercedes Lackey, but I didn't see any of that there. So... Goodkind, then? :) Yeah, it sounds like you're looking for a slightly different flavor. One which can actually be done with ordinary D&D, I would think. Although if you could stretch the political intrigue/romance definition to include Robin Hobb, you've got people using Wit to bond with all kinds of animals. Kristen Britain's more-intelligent-than-normal horse-companions that stay with her Green Riders might fit into this field as well, and they kick bad guys to death on a fairly regular basis. I don't know that I'd consider that "cuddly", per se. And Pern would fit, possibly, with people bonding with dragons and whatever-the-little-mini-dragons-were-called. The women are by no means chaste and docile in that world, either. I believe that's the worst misspelling of "scarlet-tressed" I've seen all day. Seriously, I don't believe that anyone said that it was going to be the way you're worried about it being. I mean, I hope that it ain't that way, too, but I've read enough of the authors they're describing that I don't see that as a real problem. I'm sure that anyone who wants to run a "chaste, pretty girl is called ugly and stupid by evil female peers until handsome male authority figure recognizes her secret magical gift for using crystals to create rainbows that make the unicorns sing"-style campaign will be able to do so, but I'm much more interested in the political intrigue and the possibility of having a book that addresses the game mechanics-versus-roleplaying question for social encounters. I'm interested in something more complex than "Okay, Sense Motive... yeah, this guy is evil -- roll initiative" or "Diplomacy of 22 -- yeah, she's totally into you". I've been able to get that with D&D sometimes (and I'm obviously exaggerating the degree of simplicity, just as you've slightly exaggerated the possible simplicity of Blue Rose), but it hasn't always been easy or supported happily by the rules. Those both sound good to me. :) I'd happily play in both of those. [/QUOTE]
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