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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balrog" data-source="post: 137078" data-attributes="member: 3543">The other night at our session, one of the PCs whipped out his Rope of Entanglement and tried to use it on a fellow party member who had come under the will of an evil sword.  luckily, the sword was in the hands of the guy who could do the least amount of damage with it, our bard.  But nevertheless, the sword was deadly( i think it was a +5 unholy Lifestealing intelligent longsword)  and the bard only picked it up because he was counting on his strong will to counter the sword ( a 1 is a 1 though!!).  Anyway, my question is:  should PC #1 ( a ranger/ Lasher ) have to make a melee touch attack with the rope before making the grapple check to hold the Bard?  The Lasher argued that as it was a magic item and since it didnt say explicitly in the item description, he shouldnt have to make the touch attack like a normal  grapple, but just go straight to the grapple check with the Bard....The DM ruled against him, and we had quite a little argument over it.  In the end we got the sword away from the bard and into safe hands (NONE!) but the issue was still confusing.  Personally, i think the rope should still have a chance to miss its target in melee , but I can see the Lasher's player's point.  Has this come up for anyone else and how did you handle it?  Is there errata or Sage Advice somewhere that I missed that might answer this?  Any hints in the general direction would be much appreciated. ThanksThe Flame of Udun</blockquote>

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