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<blockquote data-quote="kengar" data-source="post: 1222607" data-attributes="member: 3230">Granted the torch thing was cheesy. My point was that the bombs were in the books.I wouldn't argue Boromir wasn't corrupted, but you are wrong about his motivation. Boromir wanted the Ring himself. Re-read the scene where he is talking to Frodo before he tries to take it (I don't have my copy of FOTR with me). Boromir starts off talking about how the Ring could help Gondor and ends up imagining himself the wielder of the Ring and a great lord. In the movie -which, I grant, the dialog isn't 100% verbatim from the books- he says (to Frodo) &quot;It is not yours save by unhappy chance! It could have been mine. It should have been mine! Give it to me!&quot;I see a huge difference between the brothers here.Faramir (in the film) never tries to take actual possession of the Ring but bring it his father and Gondor. That is a HUGE difference. Look at how badly the Ring tempted Galadriel (arguably the wisest person in Middle Earth). Faramir is certainly influenced by the power of the Ring, but not in the same way. One could even make the argument that the Ring knew that Faramir would have resisted a direct &quot;tempting&quot;, so the will of the Ring worked around that by playing on Faramir's weakness regarding his father's lack of respect for him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kengar, post: 1222607, member: 3230"] Granted the torch thing was cheesy. My point was that the bombs [i]were[/i] in the books. I wouldn't argue Boromir wasn't corrupted, but you are wrong about his motivation. Boromir wanted the Ring [i]himself[/i]. Re-read the scene where he is talking to Frodo before he tries to take it (I don't have my copy of FOTR with me). Boromir starts off talking about how the Ring could help Gondor and ends up imagining himself the wielder of the Ring and a great lord. In the movie -which, I grant, the dialog isn't 100% verbatim from the books- he says (to Frodo) "It is not yours save by unhappy chance! It could have been mine. It should have been mine! Give it to me!" I see a huge difference between the brothers here. Faramir (in the film) never tries to take actual possession of the Ring but bring it his father and Gondor. That is a HUGE difference. Look at how badly the Ring tempted Galadriel (arguably the wisest person in Middle Earth). Faramir is certainly influenced by the power of the Ring, but not in the same way. One could even make the argument that the Ring knew that Faramir would have resisted a direct "tempting", so the will of the Ring worked around that by playing on Faramir's weakness regarding his father's lack of respect for him. [/QUOTE]

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