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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9663903" data-attributes="member: 93670">Wise words: &quot;The lesson of the virtuale ecology was to us that testing the game in house is an entirely inadequate test in contrast to the reality of being in the hands of players.&nbsp; Not only are players going to face &amp;think about the experience differently than we do in house but by sheer numbers they will crush or test things in a very different way&quot;I remember hearing about UO back in the day and immediately thinking about the obvious problems online gaming had displayed by then∆, it's good to hear about how they recognized and tried to address some of them but also realized sometimes intended design can't work in the wild and did what they could to replace it with needed design.&nbsp; Sometimes it seems like there is a trend in modern gaming (ttrpgs especially) for designers/publishers to state the intended results of a design that worked in closed door play and blame anyone who has a bone to pick with the results in actual real world play rather than doing anything about the merits of that bone itself.∆ UO was starting to compete with EverQuest by then or would soon.&nbsp; That's not a slight against UO though... It nearly predated widespread consumer Internet and very much kicked off online gaming in a format other than text based MUDs.&nbsp; They were building the racecar while the track it worse on was still being paved</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9663903, member: 93670"] Wise words: "[I]The lesson of the virtuale ecology was to us that [B]testing the game in house is an entirely inadequate test in contrast to the reality of being in the hands of players[/B]. Not only are players going to face &think about the experience differently than we do in house but by sheer numbers they will crush or test things in a very different way[/I]" I remember hearing about UO back in the day and immediately thinking about the obvious problems online gaming had displayed by then∆, it's good to hear about how they recognized and tried to address some of them but also realized sometimes [I]intended[/I] design can't work in the wild and did what they could to replace it with [I]needed[/I] design. Sometimes it seems like there is a trend in modern gaming (ttrpgs especially) for designers/publishers to state the [I]intended[/I] results of a design that worked in closed door play and blame anyone who has a bone to pick with the results in actual real world play rather than doing anything about the merits of that bone itself. ∆ UO was starting to compete with EverQuest by then or would soon. That's not a slight against UO though... It nearly predated widespread consumer Internet and very much kicked off online gaming in a format other than text based MUDs. They were building the racecar while the track it worse on was still being paved [/QUOTE]

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