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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7705831" data-attributes="member: 4937">I don't believe it is subjective whether two stories have the same premise.&nbsp; It is a statement of objective value, otherwise you wouldn't bother saying it.&nbsp; We don't argue over whether or not pickles taste better than boiled eggs, because while we might have different preferences and judgments and we might be able to explain or reasons, we know that ultimately a matter of taste.&nbsp; I'm not going to argue with you over a matter of taste.&nbsp; You are free to enjoy movies I don't like.&nbsp; But the statement, &quot;They have the same premise&quot;, is not an opinion or you wouldn't have asserted as evidence.&nbsp; Such an assertion implies the belief that as a matter of fact, two other books or movies might not have the same premise.I would just like to know before I get into an argument with you, whether you are the sort of person who is going to say stupid things like, &quot;Well that's just your opinion.&quot;, because if you are it's going to be pretty darn pointless to argue over it.&nbsp;&nbsp; But, if it is just your opinion that the two books have the same premise - if it is a wholly subjective matter - I will say you are rather foolish for offering it is evidence of your thesis.Well, yes.&nbsp; That's what I meant when I used the word.No, that's not my claim.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7705831, member: 4937"] I don't believe it is subjective whether two stories have the same premise. It is a statement of objective value, otherwise you wouldn't bother saying it. We don't argue over whether or not pickles taste better than boiled eggs, because while we might have different preferences and judgments and we might be able to explain or reasons, we know that ultimately a matter of taste. I'm not going to argue with you over a matter of taste. You are free to enjoy movies I don't like. But the statement, "They have the same premise", is not an opinion or you wouldn't have asserted as evidence. Such an assertion implies the belief that as a matter of fact, two other books or movies might not have the same premise. I would just like to know before I get into an argument with you, whether you are the sort of person who is going to say stupid things like, "Well that's just your opinion.", because if you are it's going to be pretty darn pointless to argue over it. But, if it is just your opinion that the two books have the same premise - if it is a wholly subjective matter - I will say you are rather foolish for offering it is evidence of your thesis. Well, yes. That's what I meant when I used the word. No, that's not my claim. [/QUOTE]

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