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<blockquote data-quote="MNblockhead" data-source="post: 8042131" data-attributes="member: 6796661"><p>Sure, but again, what's new? If you want to make money at something you are likely going to have to find a way to appeal to those who have the money to spend or work even hard to find those whose interests match your vision. And at least TTRPG fans tend to stick with a campaign or game system for a few months or even a few years if they are are really into it, which I assume they would be if they are bothering to subscribe to content for it. There are many other industries, creative or not, where tastes and fads change much more quickly. Bottom line: you have to hustle or partner with someone who will hustle for you. </p><p></p><p>But one thing that I think may be different is with Kickstarters, you get a lot of backers who really have trouble understanding that it is not a pre-order system or, worse, those who think that their $100 investment entitles them to high levels of communication and attention. I can imagine that being incredibly draining and distracting. Add to that the fact that some creative types who start Kickstarters have no aptitude for project and product management and are not great with customer service and you can get a toxic brew of dysfunction and negativity. Patreon is a gentler because the amount of money spend up front is generally low and it is easy to just cancel your support/subscription if you become unhappy. They may be some negativity in the comments or sent to you by e-mail, but not nearly the level of vitriol, doxxing, and threats of lawsuits I commonly see in Kickstarter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MNblockhead, post: 8042131, member: 6796661"] Sure, but again, what's new? If you want to make money at something you are likely going to have to find a way to appeal to those who have the money to spend or work even hard to find those whose interests match your vision. And at least TTRPG fans tend to stick with a campaign or game system for a few months or even a few years if they are are really into it, which I assume they would be if they are bothering to subscribe to content for it. There are many other industries, creative or not, where tastes and fads change much more quickly. Bottom line: you have to hustle or partner with someone who will hustle for you. But one thing that I think may be different is with Kickstarters, you get a lot of backers who really have trouble understanding that it is not a pre-order system or, worse, those who think that their $100 investment entitles them to high levels of communication and attention. I can imagine that being incredibly draining and distracting. Add to that the fact that some creative types who start Kickstarters have no aptitude for project and product management and are not great with customer service and you can get a toxic brew of dysfunction and negativity. Patreon is a gentler because the amount of money spend up front is generally low and it is easy to just cancel your support/subscription if you become unhappy. They may be some negativity in the comments or sent to you by e-mail, but not nearly the level of vitriol, doxxing, and threats of lawsuits I commonly see in Kickstarter. [/QUOTE]
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