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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7827482" data-attributes="member: 18182">This is the political aspect of our discussion, of course. But if we did have &quot;universal healthcare&quot; or &quot;socialized healthcare&quot;, we would be creating a society where folks don't have to worry about healthcare the way we do now in America. You could choose any career, make any amount of money, or even have severe mental/physical handicaps that limit your options and put you onto the street . . . . and you would not have to worry about receiving quality, basic healthcare. Those aging creatives who never made enough money for good preventative healthcare when they were young, and have no savings now for healthcare as they get older, they would be okay (at least, their health would be).And of course, under the current system, even those of us with good jobs and good health plans are one health disaster away from financial ruin. Even a simple visit to the ER for stitches can put a severe financial strain on a family.Medicare for All sounds pretty good to me. Will my taxes go up? Yes. But my high deductible, co-pays, and out-of-pocket expenses for healthcare would (mostly) go away and I'd be better off in the balance. Will my taxes go to support the healthcare of folks who &quot;don't deserve it&quot;? No, because everyone, including the most incompetent and lazy humans on the planet, deserve quality healthcare. I'm totally cool with my taxes supporting that! Much more comfortable than I am with my taxes going to the many never-ending wars my country is involved in that don't really improve the safety of American citizens.It's fun to get that out on ENWorld! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 7827482, member: 18182"] This is the political aspect of our discussion, of course. But if we did have "universal healthcare" or "socialized healthcare", we would be creating a society where folks don't have to worry about healthcare the way we do now in America. You could choose any career, make any amount of money, or even have severe mental/physical handicaps that limit your options and put you onto the street . . . . and you would not have to worry about receiving quality, basic healthcare. Those aging creatives who never made enough money for good preventative healthcare when they were young, and have no savings now for healthcare as they get older, they would be okay (at least, their health would be). And of course, under the current system, even those of us with good jobs and good health plans are one health disaster away from financial ruin. Even a simple visit to the ER for stitches can put a severe financial strain on a family. Medicare for All sounds pretty good to me. Will my taxes go up? Yes. But my high deductible, co-pays, and out-of-pocket expenses for healthcare would (mostly) go away and I'd be better off in the balance. Will my taxes go to support the healthcare of folks who "don't deserve it"? No, because everyone, including the most incompetent and lazy humans on the planet, deserve quality healthcare. I'm totally cool with my taxes supporting that! Much more comfortable than I am with my taxes going to the many never-ending wars my country is involved in that don't really improve the safety of American citizens. It's fun to get that out on ENWorld! :) [/QUOTE]

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