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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9312761" data-attributes="member: 18">I disagree Thomas, not entirely but even if you do use quite elaborate style prompts, AI still strongly tends to do certain things that make it look both bad and same-y - one particular one is, if it's doing anything non-photographic, to use multiple different approaches to shading in the same image, something that real artists very rarely do, and where they do, it's very selective and careful - whereas with AI art it's absolutely routine. And it doesn't look good unless except to dimwits who just like the most things to be going in an image. Their idea of quality is just a lot of things happening.And with only &quot;normal&quot; levels of style prompt, it tends to look more than just &quot;same-y&quot;, it looks bland and low-quality in a peculiar &quot;detailed but crap&quot; way that absolutely screams &quot;AI ART!!!&quot; at the top of its lungs. It's very identifiable because normal artists just don't spend that level of effort (fake effort in this case) on a crap-looking, uninspired image - not even bad ones!It's really a bit like rolling a d20 hoping for a natural 20, because every so often, with the exact same prompts, it'll produce something, that so long as no-one looks at it too closely, is passable and not immediately obvious as AI art. But much as &quot;prompt engineers&quot; like to pretend it it's a skill, it demonstrably isn't. You can use the same prompt a dozen times and get a dozen very very different images, and maybe one of them, if you're lucky, is okay - and this is just what people who claim to be good with prompts do - pay enough to be able to spam images, and get it to spam until it gets one that isn't ghastly - ironically they are showing a small skill - they can usually identify a less-awful image on the pile of crap they have.It also seems to be getting worse, not better, re-same-y-ness (though the &quot;mistake level&quot; is going down in some ways - not the shading issue though), and I don't expect that to change it increasingly starts ingesting it's own dung. Only to get more same-y.With more photographic-style stuff, I haven't used every tool recently, but a couple I did use which were supposed to be &quot;good&quot; according to AI art fans were only really &quot;good&quot; at seemingly completely ignoring prompts and producing really stunningly bland and samey images that all looked like there were from clothing catalogues or clothing websites, which was kind of interesting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9312761, member: 18"] I disagree Thomas, not entirely but even if you do use quite elaborate style prompts, AI still strongly tends to do certain things that make it look both bad and same-y - one particular one is, if it's doing anything non-photographic, to use multiple different approaches to shading in the same image, something that real artists very rarely do, and where they do, it's very selective and careful - whereas with AI art it's absolutely routine. And it doesn't look good unless except to dimwits who just like the most things to be going in an image. Their idea of quality is just a lot of things happening. And with only "normal" levels of style prompt, it tends to look more than just "same-y", it looks bland and low-quality in a peculiar "detailed but crap" way that absolutely screams "AI ART!!!" at the top of its lungs. It's very identifiable because normal artists just don't spend that level of effort (fake effort in this case) on a crap-looking, uninspired image - not even bad ones! It's really a bit like rolling a d20 hoping for a natural 20, because every so often, with the exact same prompts, it'll produce something, that so long as no-one looks at it too closely, is passable and not immediately obvious as AI art. But much as "prompt engineers" like to pretend it it's a skill, it demonstrably isn't. You can use the same prompt a dozen times and get a dozen very very different images, and maybe one of them, if you're lucky, is okay - and this is just what people who claim to be good with prompts do - pay enough to be able to spam images, and get it to spam until it gets one that isn't ghastly - ironically they are showing a small skill - they can usually identify a less-awful image on the pile of crap they have. It also seems to be getting worse, not better, re-same-y-ness (though the "mistake level" is going down in some ways - not the shading issue though), and I don't expect that to change it increasingly starts ingesting it's own dung. Only to get more same-y. With more photographic-style stuff, I haven't used every tool recently, but a couple I did use which were supposed to be "good" according to AI art fans were only really "good" at seemingly completely ignoring prompts and producing really stunningly bland and samey images that all looked like there were from clothing catalogues or clothing websites, which was kind of interesting. [/QUOTE]

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