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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9313212" data-attributes="member: 18">You absolutely do. This is where you're flatly wrong. It's not even arguable. When you're in an art class, you see the art other people are making. You can't honestly live life among others and not see the art they make. And human art is constructed by an entirely different process to AI generation - it's not comparable. You can take a bad piece and make it better, or you can you reject and change your ideas, whatever - AI cannot do anything of the sort, it can only re-roll its random combos the word salad of prompts. This strikes me as an objection coming either from someone who has never participated in making art, in their life (which seems unlikely, but not impossible), or a place of almost fantasy - another world, a different world, where the artistic process is hidden and unavailable.I will be honest, when you see AI art boosters on Twitter you often do seem them acting the like the tools to create have been denied to them, hidden from them - but it's not true. It's never true. They're always well-off Westerners who went to decent colleges. They chose not to engage with the making of art. It was never denied to them.That's on you. That you don't get it isn't on me.It's particularly of note that the obviously low taste levels and weak aesthetic sense of a lot of AI art fans is part of what's holding AI art back, part of what is continuing to make it look distinctive and kind of crap - because the pieces being selected for are not usually the most artistically interesting, not the most similar to really skilled, striking or beautiful art, they're usually just the ones that nail the prompt and look "decent" - i.e. not obviously embarrassing (but they sometimes still are) - often as I've pointed out in this wildly overwrought, overdetailed way.To be clear this is a subject I find quite interesting - I'm not averse at all to using AI art tools to explore what they can do, and I kind of hope one day to find one that's actually impressive, but the current limitations on their fundamental functionality, and the fact that they seem to be creating increasingly not decreasingly same-y images is unfortunate.</blockquote>

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