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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8870691" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Good to hear! I don't disagree with said hot take. The best horror stuff I've seen for any WoD is all nWoD. I always wanted to run God Machine.</p><p></p><p>I've got two hot takes myself:</p><p></p><p>1) oWoD's problem was they made a superb urban fantasy set of RPGs, with horror theme-ing (just like Anne Rice is really sexy urban fantasy first, horror a distant second), and then in Revised, got upset people weren't always playing them for horror primarily, and threw the baby out with the bathwater until the 20th anniversary when said baby, now no doubt a toddler, was welcomed back with open arms and horror got to go sit in the corner again.</p><p></p><p>2) The fact that Revised and nWoD both had lower audiences/profiles than the oWoD, and less obsessive ones is in part because they were better horror games, but that isn't actually what the most people wanted, they wanted that sweet sweet urban fantasy.</p><p></p><p>That's not to devalue nWoD, it was definitely cool and corrected a lot of issues with oWoD. 5th edition just seems like kind of a mess. I was deeply unimpressed with Hunter especially, because it's all generic powers and resources for you to "flavour", and feels like whilst the setting writing and so on is modern, the mechanics could be from the 1980s. What made both previous WoDs stand out from other horror games back in the day was that they weren't like that, they were very strongly and specifically themed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8870691, member: 18"] Good to hear! I don't disagree with said hot take. The best horror stuff I've seen for any WoD is all nWoD. I always wanted to run God Machine. I've got two hot takes myself: 1) oWoD's problem was they made a superb urban fantasy set of RPGs, with horror theme-ing (just like Anne Rice is really sexy urban fantasy first, horror a distant second), and then in Revised, got upset people weren't always playing them for horror primarily, and threw the baby out with the bathwater until the 20th anniversary when said baby, now no doubt a toddler, was welcomed back with open arms and horror got to go sit in the corner again. 2) The fact that Revised and nWoD both had lower audiences/profiles than the oWoD, and less obsessive ones is in part because they were better horror games, but that isn't actually what the most people wanted, they wanted that sweet sweet urban fantasy. That's not to devalue nWoD, it was definitely cool and corrected a lot of issues with oWoD. 5th edition just seems like kind of a mess. I was deeply unimpressed with Hunter especially, because it's all generic powers and resources for you to "flavour", and feels like whilst the setting writing and so on is modern, the mechanics could be from the 1980s. What made both previous WoDs stand out from other horror games back in the day was that they weren't like that, they were very strongly and specifically themed. [/QUOTE]
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