Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9143751" data-attributes="member: 4937">But there was no way to achieve stability.&nbsp; There was no oral contraceptives and live births didn't go down in the period - they went up.&nbsp; Where did all the missing people go?&nbsp; We're not talking about a small number of people either.&nbsp; It was a long period in history.&nbsp; We're talking tens of millions of people who had to disappear in order to maintain that stability.&nbsp;&nbsp; They didn't immigrate.&nbsp; They didn't starve.&nbsp;&nbsp; They didn't die in war. Where did they go?&nbsp; Look, I'm not going to get into this deeply.&nbsp; I realized that people are making this a modern political issue, and I know about biases in Japanese education.&nbsp; I've talked to people from Japan before.&nbsp;&nbsp; And the last thing I want to do is get in a political fight.Yeah, the world has seen a lot of nightmares and I'm not saying that anyone is better than anyone else.&nbsp; I don't look at history primarily to condemn the people who lived it but to understand exactly what is going on.&nbsp; Thirty years war was a brutal horrible conflict that resulted in the death of like a third of some country's population - six million people.&nbsp;&nbsp; I know that.&nbsp;&nbsp; I also know that under the reign of Henry the 8th, England experienced comparable or even higher rates of judicial execution and that the West was no less brutal or creative in carrying out capital punishment than the East.&nbsp; But I'm not using the descriptions that I'm making out of ignorance, sir.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9143751, member: 4937"] But there was no way to achieve stability. There was no oral contraceptives and live births didn't go down in the period - they went up. Where did all the missing people go? We're not talking about a small number of people either. It was a long period in history. We're talking tens of millions of people who had to disappear in order to maintain that stability. They didn't immigrate. They didn't starve. They didn't die in war. Where did they go? Look, I'm not going to get into this deeply. I realized that people are making this a modern political issue, and I know about biases in Japanese education. I've talked to people from Japan before. And the last thing I want to do is get in a political fight. Yeah, the world has seen a lot of nightmares and I'm not saying that anyone is better than anyone else. I don't look at history primarily to condemn the people who lived it but to understand exactly what is going on. Thirty years war was a brutal horrible conflict that resulted in the death of like a third of some country's population - six million people. I know that. I also know that under the reign of Henry the 8th, England experienced comparable or even higher rates of judicial execution and that the West was no less brutal or creative in carrying out capital punishment than the East. But I'm not using the descriptions that I'm making out of ignorance, sir. [/QUOTE]

Verification