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<blockquote data-quote="Gammadoodler" data-source="post: 8690761" data-attributes="member: 6914290">So within the base class (no heritages), they have the same base hp and dex bump, but nothing else in common including either size or move speed and you find this..indistinct?(Edit/Note: base hp in pf2e I'd only actually applies in the hp calculations at level 1 and beyond level 1 become increasingly irrelevant to total char hp. Char size in Pf2e is mostly irrelevant except with respect to trips and grapples. Movement speed is huge though as movement costs actions and cannot be broken up. Wis vs Int bump means elves have more skills but less perception relative to halflings. Str vs con flaws mean halflings typically do less damage with weapons while elves have fewer hp.. these are not insignificant differences in total) You do bring up twilight halfling which is one several halfling heritages and indeed does give lowlight vision, but you do not bring up cavern elf, which is one of several elf heritages and gives darkvision (a step better than low light vision). A further distinction.And then there are the feats, which, especially for halflings and elves, are radically different between the two of them.If you are intending to say that ancestries in PF2e are same-y, this is a poorly chosen example.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gammadoodler, post: 8690761, member: 6914290"] So within the base class (no heritages), they have the same base hp and dex bump, but nothing else in common including either size or move speed and you find this..indistinct? (Edit/Note: base hp in pf2e I'd only actually applies in the hp calculations at level 1 and beyond level 1 become increasingly irrelevant to total char hp. Char size in Pf2e is mostly irrelevant except with respect to trips and grapples. Movement speed is huge though as movement costs actions and cannot be broken up. Wis vs Int bump means elves have more skills but less perception relative to halflings. Str vs con flaws mean halflings typically do less damage with weapons while elves have fewer hp.. these are not insignificant differences in total) You do bring up twilight halfling which is one several halfling heritages and indeed does give lowlight vision, but you do not bring up cavern elf, which is one of several elf heritages and gives darkvision (a step better than low light vision). A further distinction. And then there are the feats, which, especially for halflings and elves, are radically different between the two of them. If you are intending to say that ancestries in PF2e are same-y, this is a poorly chosen example. [/QUOTE]

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