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<blockquote data-quote="FrozenNorth" data-source="post: 8691090" data-attributes="member: 7020832">I do find this indistinct.&nbsp; We were comparing universal ancestry traits (i.e. traits shared by all members of the ancestry).By way of comparison, elves in 5e also have the size difference with halflings, but get Fey Ancestry, training in Perception, they trance rather than sleep, and Darkvision. Halflings get Lucky, Halfling Nimbleness, Brave and the slightly lower walking speed.But let’s include subraces/heritages.&nbsp; Your heritage in PF2 grants you one additional trait.&nbsp; In 5e, a Wood elf would get Wood elf Weapon Training, Fleet of Foot and Mask of the Wild.&nbsp; Lightfoots just get Naturally Stealthy.However, that ignores the fact that 5e racial traits tend to be “bigger” than PF2 ancestry feats.&nbsp; Fey Ancestry is the equivalent of 2 or 3 PF2 feats, and if you want to keep using Elf Weapons at higher levels, you need both Elf Weapon Familiarity and Elf Weapon Expertise.Except Dwarves don’t have a bonus to Int, and also aren’t natively proficient in Dwarf Lore, nor are Halflings in Halflings Lore, nor any race proficient in the lore of its people.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrozenNorth, post: 8691090, member: 7020832"] I do find this indistinct. We were comparing universal ancestry traits (i.e. traits shared by all members of the ancestry). By way of comparison, elves in 5e also have the size difference with halflings, but get Fey Ancestry, training in Perception, they trance rather than sleep, and Darkvision. Halflings get Lucky, Halfling Nimbleness, Brave and the slightly lower walking speed. But let’s include subraces/heritages. Your heritage in PF2 grants you one additional trait. In 5e, a Wood elf would get Wood elf Weapon Training, Fleet of Foot and Mask of the Wild. Lightfoots just get Naturally Stealthy. However, that ignores the fact that 5e racial traits tend to be “bigger” than PF2 ancestry feats. Fey Ancestry is the equivalent of 2 or 3 PF2 feats, and if you want to keep using Elf Weapons at higher levels, you need both Elf Weapon Familiarity and Elf Weapon Expertise. Except Dwarves don’t have a bonus to Int, and also aren’t natively proficient in Dwarf Lore, nor are Halflings in Halflings Lore, nor any race proficient in the lore of its people. [/QUOTE]

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