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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8694268" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Except that as you pointed out, they got a single sentence in an adventure. The end. And you treated it like it was an enormous waste of space.</p><p></p><p>How did that sentence affect you? How would even a paragraph or a whole page actually affect you? If you don't hate halflings, like you claim, then their mere presence shouldn't actually bother you. </p><p></p><p>So either you <em>do </em>hate them but for some reason want to pretend you don't, or you <em>don't </em>hate them and therefore shouldn't be upset that some villagers are halflings. Which is it?</p><p></p><p></p><p>But you haven't actually said <em>how </em>these interests are diminished. How many people are really pulling their hair out in frustration because there's a halfling in the book? Seriously.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Give me a reason why they <em>couldn't?</em> Especially considering they are opening up more and more to digital sales where the size of the book doesn't matter. And who said anything about doubling or tripling? They could add all the current races in another forty or fifty pages. </p><p></p><p>I'm bringing up Level Up to show you that published, dead-tree D&D-derived books can in fact be more than 300 pages in length without problems.</p><p></p><p>Unlike twelve types of polearms, different races actually do fit different niches. I doubt that there's anyone who's mad for bec de corbins, but there <em>are </em>people who adore halflings, just like there are people who adore elves or orcs or tabaxi or whatever. The mere fact that you are not one of those people doesn't mean that those people don't exist. I play with not one but <em>two </em>people who will nearly always play tabaxi/anthro races. I knew a guy in college who would only ever play halflings, unless he was allowed to play a kender. </p><p></p><p>And 400k people is not rarely used. It's a sizable fraction, considering that it only counts people who made a character on D&DBeyond.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Aarakocra, aasimar (fallen, protector, scourge), bugbear, centaur, changeling, dhampir, dragonborn (base, chromatic, draconblood, gem, metallic, ravenite), dwarf (duergar, hill, mountain), elf (drow, eladrin, high, pallid, sea, shadar-kai, wood), fairy, firbolg, genasi (air, earth, fire, water), gith (githyanki, githzerai), gnome (deep, forest, rock), goblin (base, dankwood), goliath, grung, half-elf (base, elf subrace-descent), half-orc, halfling (ghostwise, lightfoot, lotusden, stout), harengon, hexblood, hobgoblin (base, fey), human (base, variant), kalashtar, kenku, kobold, leonin, locathah, minotaur, orc, owlin, reborn, satyr, shifter (beasthide, longtooth, swiftstride, wildhunt), tabaxi, tiefling (base, Asmodeus, Baalzebul, Dispater, Fierna, Glasya, Levistus, Mammon, Mephistopheles, varaint, Zariel), tortle, triton, veldaken, verdan, warforged, yuai-ti.</p><p></p><p>If my count is correct, that's 42 races and 55 sub-races.</p><p></p><p>In the games I'm playing in or running, we have: tiefling (2), tabaxi (2), half-elf (3), warforged (2), kenku, githzerai, firbolg, gnome, leonin, changeling, kalashtar, earth genasi, shifter, half-orc (2), reborn, dhampir, halfling <strong>(3)</strong>, homebrew caliban (2).</p><p></p><p>Maybe your games don't have a wide variety of races in them. I don't know. But as you can see, mine, and probably a lot of other games as well, <em>do.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8694268, member: 6915329"] Except that as you pointed out, they got a single sentence in an adventure. The end. And you treated it like it was an enormous waste of space. How did that sentence affect you? How would even a paragraph or a whole page actually affect you? If you don't hate halflings, like you claim, then their mere presence shouldn't actually bother you. So either you [I]do [/I]hate them but for some reason want to pretend you don't, or you [I]don't [/I]hate them and therefore shouldn't be upset that some villagers are halflings. Which is it? But you haven't actually said [I]how [/I]these interests are diminished. How many people are really pulling their hair out in frustration because there's a halfling in the book? Seriously. Give me a reason why they [I]couldn't?[/I] Especially considering they are opening up more and more to digital sales where the size of the book doesn't matter. And who said anything about doubling or tripling? They could add all the current races in another forty or fifty pages. I'm bringing up Level Up to show you that published, dead-tree D&D-derived books can in fact be more than 300 pages in length without problems. Unlike twelve types of polearms, different races actually do fit different niches. I doubt that there's anyone who's mad for bec de corbins, but there [I]are [/I]people who adore halflings, just like there are people who adore elves or orcs or tabaxi or whatever. The mere fact that you are not one of those people doesn't mean that those people don't exist. I play with not one but [I]two [/I]people who will nearly always play tabaxi/anthro races. I knew a guy in college who would only ever play halflings, unless he was allowed to play a kender. And 400k people is not rarely used. It's a sizable fraction, considering that it only counts people who made a character on D&DBeyond. Aarakocra, aasimar (fallen, protector, scourge), bugbear, centaur, changeling, dhampir, dragonborn (base, chromatic, draconblood, gem, metallic, ravenite), dwarf (duergar, hill, mountain), elf (drow, eladrin, high, pallid, sea, shadar-kai, wood), fairy, firbolg, genasi (air, earth, fire, water), gith (githyanki, githzerai), gnome (deep, forest, rock), goblin (base, dankwood), goliath, grung, half-elf (base, elf subrace-descent), half-orc, halfling (ghostwise, lightfoot, lotusden, stout), harengon, hexblood, hobgoblin (base, fey), human (base, variant), kalashtar, kenku, kobold, leonin, locathah, minotaur, orc, owlin, reborn, satyr, shifter (beasthide, longtooth, swiftstride, wildhunt), tabaxi, tiefling (base, Asmodeus, Baalzebul, Dispater, Fierna, Glasya, Levistus, Mammon, Mephistopheles, varaint, Zariel), tortle, triton, veldaken, verdan, warforged, yuai-ti. If my count is correct, that's 42 races and 55 sub-races. In the games I'm playing in or running, we have: tiefling (2), tabaxi (2), half-elf (3), warforged (2), kenku, githzerai, firbolg, gnome, leonin, changeling, kalashtar, earth genasi, shifter, half-orc (2), reborn, dhampir, halfling [B](3)[/B], homebrew caliban (2). Maybe your games don't have a wide variety of races in them. I don't know. But as you can see, mine, and probably a lot of other games as well, [I]do.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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