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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8695715" data-attributes="member: 22779">Again, it's missing my point.&nbsp; The fact that despite having every possible advantage - being in the SRD, being promoted in the artwork, appearing in modules and having material specifically written for halfling characters (racial feats, magic items, appearances in setting guides), halflings have never, ever been anything else but the bottom of the barrel.It's all down to interpretation. You look at the 5% and think, &quot;Wow, that's okay.&nbsp; They're being played.&nbsp; They have a place&quot;.&nbsp; I look at 5% and think, &quot;What's the point of having something so irrelevant in the PHB?&nbsp; Particularly in light of the fact that newly added races have both FAR surpassed virtually anything else in the PHB other than elves and humans.&quot;&nbsp; We're really not going to agree here because we're looking at the same numbers and coming to very different conclusions.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not saying you're wrong.&nbsp; But, I do disagree with your interpretation.&nbsp; Which is fine.&nbsp; We're all allowed to have different opinions, even strongly held ones.&nbsp; Personally, and this is absolutely my own bias coming out, I'd rather D&amp;D abandoned Tolkien entirely.&nbsp; It's about time that the PHB draws from material other than Tolkien.&nbsp; Dragonborn and Tieflings prove that non-Tolkien races can be very popular.&nbsp; So, why are we stuck with the Fellowship of the Rings, fifty years later?[USER=87792]@Neonchameleon[/USER] and others talk about the &quot;everyman&quot; niche.&nbsp; Well, to me, that's already covered with humans.&nbsp; Humans are, by definition, the &quot;everyman&quot;.&nbsp; They have no magical abilities.&nbsp; They aren't blessed with god given luck powers.&nbsp; They are 100% completely organic.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; Free range if you will.&nbsp; So, why do we need an &quot;everyman&quot; niche race when we already have one?&nbsp; And, of course, the argument of combining halflings and gnomes contradicts the whole &quot;everyman&quot; niche that halflings are supposed to inhabit since gnomes are very much not an &quot;everyman&quot; niche character.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8695715, member: 22779"] Again, it's missing my point. The fact that despite having every possible advantage - being in the SRD, being promoted in the artwork, appearing in modules and having material specifically written for halfling characters (racial feats, magic items, appearances in setting guides), halflings have never, ever been anything else but the bottom of the barrel. It's all down to interpretation. You look at the 5% and think, "Wow, that's okay. They're being played. They have a place". I look at 5% and think, "What's the point of having something so irrelevant in the PHB? Particularly in light of the fact that newly added races have both FAR surpassed virtually anything else in the PHB other than elves and humans." We're really not going to agree here because we're looking at the same numbers and coming to very different conclusions. I'm not saying you're wrong. But, I do disagree with your interpretation. Which is fine. We're all allowed to have different opinions, even strongly held ones. Personally, and this is absolutely my own bias coming out, I'd rather D&D abandoned Tolkien entirely. It's about time that the PHB draws from material other than Tolkien. Dragonborn and Tieflings prove that non-Tolkien races can be very popular. So, why are we stuck with the Fellowship of the Rings, fifty years later? [USER=87792]@Neonchameleon[/USER] and others talk about the "everyman" niche. Well, to me, that's already covered with humans. Humans are, by definition, the "everyman". They have no magical abilities. They aren't blessed with god given luck powers. They are 100% completely organic. :D Free range if you will. So, why do we need an "everyman" niche race when we already have one? And, of course, the argument of combining halflings and gnomes contradicts the whole "everyman" niche that halflings are supposed to inhabit since gnomes are very much not an "everyman" niche character. [/QUOTE]

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