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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8698622" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>No, that's fair. It is largely anecdotal.</p><p></p><p>Although, again, I would point out that in 2e, only gnomes and halflings didn't get a Complete Race book. Or, rather, they shared a single book while everyone else got the full treatment. So, it does suggest that halflings and gnomes weren't overly popular. </p><p></p><p>But, funnily enough, [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER]'s numbers seem to line up pretty much exactly with the larger numbers we've seen from other sources. At least, close enough anyway. The actual numbers might be different, but, the ranking seems pretty much the same. So, yeah, when I say that halflings are scraping the bottom of the PHB barrel, it's not exactly something I'm pulling out of thin air here. </p><p></p><p>And, again, it's always been like this. Heck, go ALLL the way back to the Dieties and Demigods. Humans get a bajillion gods, elves get 4, dwarves, halflings and gnomes each get 1. Even all the way back in the 70's, the game has always been that way. Look at A1 Slave Pits of the Undercity - 9 pregen characters, one halfling - the thief unsurprisingly. G1 Against the Giants - 9 pregens, no halflings at all. I6 Dwellers of the Forbidden City - 20 pregen characters, no halflings. </p><p></p><p>I don't really think it's a huge stretch to make the claim that halflings were not a really popular option. If they were, wouldn't they be a bit more common to find in tournament modules? </p><p></p><p>Do I have hard evidence? Oh, absolutely not. I freely admit I'm searching the chicken entrails here. But, I've yet to see any evidence that even remotely supports the idea that halfllings were ever a popular choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8698622, member: 22779"] No, that's fair. It is largely anecdotal. Although, again, I would point out that in 2e, only gnomes and halflings didn't get a Complete Race book. Or, rather, they shared a single book while everyone else got the full treatment. So, it does suggest that halflings and gnomes weren't overly popular. But, funnily enough, [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER]'s numbers seem to line up pretty much exactly with the larger numbers we've seen from other sources. At least, close enough anyway. The actual numbers might be different, but, the ranking seems pretty much the same. So, yeah, when I say that halflings are scraping the bottom of the PHB barrel, it's not exactly something I'm pulling out of thin air here. And, again, it's always been like this. Heck, go ALLL the way back to the Dieties and Demigods. Humans get a bajillion gods, elves get 4, dwarves, halflings and gnomes each get 1. Even all the way back in the 70's, the game has always been that way. Look at A1 Slave Pits of the Undercity - 9 pregen characters, one halfling - the thief unsurprisingly. G1 Against the Giants - 9 pregens, no halflings at all. I6 Dwellers of the Forbidden City - 20 pregen characters, no halflings. I don't really think it's a huge stretch to make the claim that halflings were not a really popular option. If they were, wouldn't they be a bit more common to find in tournament modules? Do I have hard evidence? Oh, absolutely not. I freely admit I'm searching the chicken entrails here. But, I've yet to see any evidence that even remotely supports the idea that halfllings were ever a popular choice. [/QUOTE]
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