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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8700929" data-attributes="member: 87792">Let me remind everyone that the top 4 races in D&amp;D in 2020 were the Human, Half-Elf, Tiefling, and Dragonborn. And none of half-elves, tieflings, and dragonborn get huge pushes. All the settings produced by WotC are &quot;classic&quot; settings of course.Even elves and dwarves don't make it into the top 5 as of 2020 and they are pushed to the moon. (<a href="https://www.geeknative.com/103964/the-most-popular-dd-races-in-dd-beyond-in-2020/" target="_blank">The fifth race? Half-orcs</a>. Surprised me too).So. Your literal claim is that any race with as hard a push as halflings get should be two places ahead of both elves and dwarves as of 2020, which is the most recent data we have. Is this in some backwards universe where having a push at all is deemed to be harmful and the less the push the better they do? Or are you somehow claiming in defiance of just about all the evidence that halflings are pushed harder than both elves and dwarves?What makes you claim that halflings are promoted harder than gnomes? The only place I see them getting a harder push is that they are a couple of pages earlier in the PHB in the &quot;common races&quot; section. To which I'd comment that with the 2020 data every single uncommon race in the PHB except gnome beats every single common race in the PHB except human.Why are you setting impossible standards for the halfling and saying that with their push they should be meeting standards that even elves don't despite a vastly bigger push?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8700929, member: 87792"] Let me remind everyone that the top 4 races in D&D in 2020 were the Human, Half-Elf, Tiefling, and Dragonborn. And [I]none[/I] of half-elves, tieflings, and dragonborn get huge pushes. All the settings produced by WotC are "classic" settings of course. Even [I]elves[/I] and [I]dwarves[/I] don't make it into the top 5 as of 2020 and they are pushed to the moon. ([URL='https://www.geeknative.com/103964/the-most-popular-dd-races-in-dd-beyond-in-2020/']The fifth race? Half-orcs[/URL]. Surprised me too). So. Your literal claim is that any race with as hard a push as halflings get should be two places ahead of both elves and dwarves as of 2020, which is the most recent data we have. Is this in some backwards universe where having a push at all is deemed to be harmful and the less the push the better they do? Or are you somehow claiming in defiance of just about all the evidence that halflings are pushed harder than both elves and dwarves? What makes you claim that halflings are promoted harder than gnomes? The only place I see them getting a harder push is that they are a couple of pages earlier in the PHB in the "common races" section. To which I'd comment that with the 2020 data every single uncommon race in the PHB except gnome beats every single common race in the PHB except human. Why are you setting impossible standards for the halfling and saying that with their push they should be meeting standards that even elves don't despite a vastly bigger push? [/QUOTE]

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