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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8707002" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Okay, here's a fun challenge. Go to ancient Greece, heck, we'll say go to Athens in Ancient Greece. Do they have a mining tradition? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mines_of_Laurion" target="_blank">The Mines of Laurion</a> say yes, Athenians had a mining operation. They weren't in an ore-rich area, but they had it. Do they have a Theatrical Tradition? Obviously yes. Athenian plays and play wrights are literally world famousDo they have a crafting tradition? Considering we have statuary, pots, and more from Athens, yes, they did have a crafting tradition. Do they have a Martial Tradition? Athens had armies, so not an unfair assessment. Now, they weren't like the Spartans for sure, but they did defeat the Spartans, so... that has to count for something, right? Did they have culinary traditions? Considering that they have a "national food" I'd say that's a yes. Gardening Tradition? Athens had gardens as depicited in many artworks. Oh right, they had an art tradition as well. And philosophy, religion, maritime trade, ship building... Now, if a single human city-state can have all that... why can't Dwarves? Now, maybe when you say "tradition" you mean something far more intense and time consuming than the thing existing. But your posts keep acting like dwarves don't have theaters at all, like them building one is somehow a shocking break in character. Dwarves have an entire society, complete with all the bells and whistles.So do not have NASA and a Department of Education and a Department of Health and Human Services? Again, if you mean "this is the greatest achievement of this people known world-wide" then sure, the dwarves aren't known world-wide for their amazing playwrights. But they do have playwrights, they do have theaters, they do have bakeries. Because they are a functioning society, not a partial society.That having slaves do all your work allows for dedicating training for warriors? But that still doesn't make you the best, since Athen's armies defeated and subjugated Sparta while the slave revolts finished the job? "Resource Allocation" aren't magic words that make sections of society vanish because funds are limited. Especially since dwarves not only have a lot of time (and therefore more resources) but also because they are rich, with that whole schtick of them pulling wealth from the earth. Which is still more resources. And they work together, you know, clans?And instead of trying to disprove my claims or rebut them, you get offended, claim I just have a bias and hate halflings, and leave the conversation. You know, shockingly, I've found that "You are wrong, you just hate them, I'm done talking" has never once made me rethink my position. What with the whole, giving me absolutely no reason to question my assertions and logic. I just don't wake up and go "Wait! What if I was wrong about the thing I came to a conclusion on?" Usually you need some sort of... counter-evidence.</blockquote>

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