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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8714118" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I don't think that is true though.&nbsp; If you are talking about halflings in particular a Lawful-Good Burglar, like Bilbo, IS the archetype.To break this in to two parts- first &quot;good&quot; -&nbsp; If killing people is inherently evil then so are many of the Lawful Good archetypes. Think of all the killing Paladins and Clerics of Tyr engage in!&nbsp;&nbsp; If we are going to accept such characters as &quot;good&quot; then we need to assume that killing itself, as an assassin specializes, is not inherently evil.As far as lawful, certainly &quot;Thief&quot; and &quot;Assasin&quot; include a thematic bias towards lawbreaking, however there are plenty of state-sanctioned &quot;Lawful&quot; assasins in the D&amp;D lore and the assasins guilds themselves are emblematic of a &quot;lawful&quot; persuit.&nbsp; So even here it is not ironclad and these are only two of the available Rogue subclasses.Other subclasses do not have any baggage and the class itself has nothing tied to lawbreaking or evil in terms of mechanics.&nbsp; Masterminds, inquisotor and swashbuckler have no subclass abilities or thematics tied to breaking the law and such thematics are pretty thin on Arcane Trickster and Phantom.Suggesting the Halfling Rogue Archetype can not be lawful good because one subclass &quot;thief&quot; is not inherently lawful is like suggesting the Asimar Cleric archetype can't be Lawful Good because one subclass &quot;Death Cleric&quot; engages in Necromancy and that is tied to evil.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8714118, member: 7030563"] I don't think that is true though. If you are talking about halflings in particular a Lawful-Good Burglar, like Bilbo, IS the archetype. To break this in to two parts- first "good" - If killing people is inherently evil then so are many of the Lawful Good archetypes. Think of all the killing Paladins and Clerics of Tyr engage in! If we are going to accept such characters as "good" then we need to assume that killing itself, as an assassin specializes, is not inherently evil. As far as lawful, certainly "Thief" and "Assasin" include a thematic bias towards lawbreaking, however there are plenty of state-sanctioned "Lawful" assasins in the D&D lore and the assasins guilds themselves are emblematic of a "lawful" persuit. So even here it is not ironclad and these are only two of the available Rogue subclasses. Other subclasses do not have any baggage and the class itself has nothing tied to lawbreaking or evil in terms of mechanics. Masterminds, inquisotor and swashbuckler have no subclass abilities or thematics tied to breaking the law and such thematics are pretty thin on Arcane Trickster and Phantom. Suggesting the Halfling Rogue Archetype can not be lawful good because one subclass "thief" is not inherently lawful is like suggesting the Asimar Cleric archetype can't be Lawful Good because one subclass "Death Cleric" engages in Necromancy and that is tied to evil. [/QUOTE]

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