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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8714501" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>So, the stereotypical halfling is the bad apple, law-breaker banished from their village? That's what halflings are most well known for? </p><p></p><p>Because, well, you spilled a lot of digital ink saying that they aren't best known for that. That they are best known for being good, honest citizens. </p><p></p><p>This isn't some sort of gotcha "it must be 100% one way" Max. This is literally "Most common stereotype 1 doesn't match with most common stereotype A" You are acting like the fact you can prove criminal halflings exist, or law-abiding rogues exist, that this prevents there from being a dissonance. But you are wrong, because exceptions do not break the stereotypes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And still completely missing the point I see. Are Druids none for their law-breaking tendencies? Nope, because they don't have laws in the first place to break. What about barbarians! They follow their own laws, which aren't civilizations laws. And in fact, they pretty much NEVER break those laws. It is a common trope.</p><p></p><p>Do LG halfling rogues exist? Entirely pointless to the point being made! Which is that Stereotype 1 (Rogues are criminals that steal things) does not match with Stereotype A (Halflings are good honest folk who just want to help). If 90% of all rogues are criminals that break the law, then it is utterly insane that the exception being LG Halfling Rogues is also the most common rogue race combo. Which is literally the point brought up.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Uh huh. And how often did he talk to a government other than the United States about things like going to cultural heritages sites and smashing them to pieces?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. The exact dissonance which was being called out. That you refuse to acknowledge, because it doesn't exist, except that it obviously exists because you have to square the circle to make it fit.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The bias is towards criminal activity. Other things exist. But those other things are not the bias. That's why it is called a bias, not a reality or an unmutable law. And you can't have a bias towards two opposing things. That is the non-existance of a bias, because a bias leans one way. Not both ways. You can't have a bias towards hot and towards cold. That is nonsense.</p><p></p><p>It is not in any way controversial to say that the stereotypical rogue is a criminal. Why are you fighting so stupidly hard to deny this? No one is saying that rogues cannot possibly be anything other than criminals. Just that the stereotypical rogue that there is a bias to in the class descriptions and peoples conceptions of them, are criminals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8714501, member: 6801228"] So, the stereotypical halfling is the bad apple, law-breaker banished from their village? That's what halflings are most well known for? Because, well, you spilled a lot of digital ink saying that they aren't best known for that. That they are best known for being good, honest citizens. This isn't some sort of gotcha "it must be 100% one way" Max. This is literally "Most common stereotype 1 doesn't match with most common stereotype A" You are acting like the fact you can prove criminal halflings exist, or law-abiding rogues exist, that this prevents there from being a dissonance. But you are wrong, because exceptions do not break the stereotypes. And still completely missing the point I see. Are Druids none for their law-breaking tendencies? Nope, because they don't have laws in the first place to break. What about barbarians! They follow their own laws, which aren't civilizations laws. And in fact, they pretty much NEVER break those laws. It is a common trope. Do LG halfling rogues exist? Entirely pointless to the point being made! Which is that Stereotype 1 (Rogues are criminals that steal things) does not match with Stereotype A (Halflings are good honest folk who just want to help). If 90% of all rogues are criminals that break the law, then it is utterly insane that the exception being LG Halfling Rogues is also the most common rogue race combo. Which is literally the point brought up. Uh huh. And how often did he talk to a government other than the United States about things like going to cultural heritages sites and smashing them to pieces? Right. The exact dissonance which was being called out. That you refuse to acknowledge, because it doesn't exist, except that it obviously exists because you have to square the circle to make it fit. The bias is towards criminal activity. Other things exist. But those other things are not the bias. That's why it is called a bias, not a reality or an unmutable law. And you can't have a bias towards two opposing things. That is the non-existance of a bias, because a bias leans one way. Not both ways. You can't have a bias towards hot and towards cold. That is nonsense. It is not in any way controversial to say that the stereotypical rogue is a criminal. Why are you fighting so stupidly hard to deny this? No one is saying that rogues cannot possibly be anything other than criminals. Just that the stereotypical rogue that there is a bias to in the class descriptions and peoples conceptions of them, are criminals. [/QUOTE]
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